A Russian kamikaze drone on Wednesday flew into NATO air space and detonated near a Romanian village, Ukrainian news reports said, but official Bucharest said the fact of the strike wasn’t confirmed and that they would check.

Ukrainian social media video recorded in the river port city of Izmail, opposite Plaura, showed an orange flash lighting up the night horizon and a booming blast on the Romanian side of the river. Flames and smoke reaching hundreds of meters into the sky were visible following the explosion. A Russian kamikaze drone strike against Izmail had been in progress at the time.

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    I don’t want young men to die, I want the Russians to go home, return Ukrainian sovereign territory, and live peacefully. I don’t want Russians bombing and killing Ukraine or any other nation. I want them to fuck off, and if they won’t fuck off, I want the Ukrainian military to kill them all and protect themselves.

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      Great, we all want the same thing, why is Ukraine and NATO not working toward a peace agreement? Why did NATO give weapons to Ukraine to propagate a war that they were always going to lose?

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        Because they offered “fuck off and we can have peace” but russia wants to keep eastern UA territories

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            By russia withdrawing and recognizing other sovereign countries’ borders. That’d be a good start.

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              Cool, they are not going to do that so what is the actual way to get back the eastern territories?

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                To give a clear answer to the how: fight until russia fucks off.

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                    Then russia invades further, kills more civvies and pushes further into european territory. Whats the question?

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                Im not sure what youre expecting here. You asked why NATO and Ukraine won’t negotiate peace.

                They tried. Years ago. Russia said fuck you and invaded further.

                Now you moved the goal posts to seek blame on the defenders side again.

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                  They actually had a tentative agreement in Spring of 2022, but then NATO flew in and offered them money and weaponry so they could fight more. I am not moving the goal posts I am just telling you what reality is - Ukraine is going to lose, there is no other outcome.

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                    Bruv youre not saying anything youre asking open leading questions.

                    And then you ask different questions when you dislike the answers. That’s exactly what moving goalposts means. I understand you love russia but please read and think before you reply.

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          Russia wont just go home because they see Ukraine joining nato as an direct threat to their survival. Why did NATO agree to consider Ukraine as a potential NATO member when they knew it would likely cause war?

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            Russia pushed Ukraine into seeking NATO membership when they attacked them in 2014. Ukraine was neutral before that.

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              And NATO pushed Russia to take over Crimea when it helped to overthrow an elected government. Where does it stop?

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                  So you think its irrelevant what the opinions of other countries just as long as your government thinks its right? How many wars could have been avoided by listening to the grievances of other cultures?

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        To punish the organization that started the war.

        Punishing violence with violence may seem like fighting fire with fire, but fire doesn’t respond to operant conditioning or compute game theory.

        When an intelligent agent is causing problems, making problems for that agent is a way to signal that you’ll use your social power to alter their decision tree until they start playing nice again.

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          So to punish politicians that started a war you are willing to have hundreds of thousands of young men and civilians die? How exactly does that punish politicians that are not there and whos kids down have to fight?