• yetAnotherUser@feddit.de
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        5 months ago

        “Variedades de español”

        During much of its history, and especially during the Francoist dictatorship (1939–1975), the Catalan language was ridiculed as a mere dialect of Spanish.[60][61] This view, based on political and ideological considerations, has no linguistic validity.[60][61]

        Wikipedia: Catalan language

        • occhineri@feddit.de
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          5 months ago

          nota: el mapa sola muestra las variedades de español castellano, no las demás lenguas habladas en España

          • lad@programming.dev
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            5 months ago

            This statement seems to be wrong, as there are at least three languages that are not dialects of Castellano here (likely more)

            • occhineri@feddit.de
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              5 months ago

              Afaik, castellano is spoken everywhere, at least as a secondary language. Hence I understand the map to show regional variants of castellano spoken either exclusively or secundary to another local language.

              Edit: precised my input a bit since it led to misunderstandandings

              • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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                5 months ago

                If 100 % of Indians start using English as their lingua franca (they’re on a track to just that), does that make Hindi a dialect of English?

                The sociopolitical reality of a lingua franca does not define the scientific linguistic reality of other languages.

                I will say that personally the notion of catalan being a subset of castellan sounds ridiculous on account of the fact that in its written form catalan is roughly mutually intelligible with french, where castellan is not. If it’s going to be lumped in as a dialect of something, it’d be more intellectually honest to make it a dialect of French.

                • occhineri@feddit.de
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                  5 months ago

                  That’s not what I’ve said. Also, there are a lot more languages spoken in India than just Hindi and English is only used by a relatively small elite afaik

  • Manucode@feddit.de
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    5 months ago

    Nobody in their right mind uses words like “Palatschinken”, “Paradeiser”, “Piefke” or “Schlagobers”.