Metten also stressed the critical need for nations to hold China accountable for its ‘severe human rights violations’ during its fourth Universal Periodic Review, done by the UN Human Rights Council in January. Such as what’s happening in Tibet.

Several other nations seconded that opinion. Including Denmark, Finland and Sweden.

“The Chinese government’s ongoing policy of repression aims to eradicate the authentic and self-determined Tibetan culture. This policy must be stopped immediately,” Metten said.

  • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
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    1 year ago

    @zephyreks

    Didn’t literally all the Muslim countries visit Xinjiang and come out of it with the consensus of “yeah, y’know what, China’s doing pretty good all things considered.”

    All things considered? There are some Uyghurs who could flee the country, and they don’t say “it’s pretty good” (this statement alond is disgusting given the human righrs violations hapoening there), and independent NGO hasn’t been allowed to enter Xinjiang.

    What happens there is a human catastrophe, comparable to what Nazi Germany did in the second world war.

    • zephyreks@lemmy.caEnglish
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      1 year ago

      By definition, you’ve described a self-selecting sample.

      Nobody is questioning whether China is policing Xinjiang very heavily, but calling it a genocide implies that China is somehow targeting all Uyghurs and not just radical elements. Most people are fine and Uyghurs are still represented in government and at top educational institutions. Comparing it to Nazi Germany is both reductionist and downright inaccurate.

        • zephyreks@lemmy.caEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Oh great, citing a Wikipedia article whose sources predominantly cite a single person. You can do better.

            • zephyreks@lemmy.caEnglish
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              1 year ago

              So… You have no useful sources? Good argument, bravo.

              This is the problem with all the bullshit surrounding China. It’s all “we KNOW it MUST be happening because I was told it a bunch of times.”

              • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
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                1 year ago

                At least someof us here know China from own experience, have worked for Chinese companies, lived in the country.

                You, in contrast, are suffering from a major lack of experience. You’re just echoing mindless propaganda. In the end, you are creating an obstacle for your own personal development, thus hurting yourself. You could do yourself a favour by staying away from this bubble-producing communities. But that’s just on. Whether you do it or not, all others will be fine either way.

                • zephyreks@lemmy.caEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  At least someof us here know China from own experience, have worked for Chinese companies, lived in the country.

                  Oh hey, are you describing me? I’ll admit I’ve mostly lived in tier 1/1.5 cities, so my experience isn’t exactly standard. I’ll also gladly admit that top Chinese companies have worse culture than top American ones in web development. Where are you from?

      • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
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        1 year ago

        A genocide is a genocide. Bist Du es nicht leid, immer wieder diesselbe Propaganda abzurufen als selbst zu denken?

        • branchial@feddit.deEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Ich bin so froh das ich damit aufgehört habe immer dieselbe Propaganda abzurufen und selbst zu recherchieren. Es ist krass wie oft Behauptungen wie diese, die überall verbreitet werden von der gleichen sehr wackeligen Quelle kommen.

          • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
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            1 year ago

            Wo sind denn Deine Recherchen?

            Recherchiert hast Du noch was. Du bist einfach ein Teenager, der auf die Propaganda reinfällt. Du solltest Dir selbst einen Gefallen tun und von diesen ‘Communities’ fernbleiben.

            • branchial@feddit.deEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Keine Zeit das alles abzutippen aber wenn man sich die Person Adrian Zenz mal anguckt und was sie sonst so über China und das Christentum schreibt sollten eine Menge Zweifel aufkommen.

              Ist echt witzig dass das hier gerade das Thema ist weil der sogenannte “Genozid” mich dazu gebracht hat das ganze westliche Mediensystem zu hinterfragen. Ich konnte einfach keine verlässliche Quelle finden. Die (fehlende) Berichterstattung über die Nazi Milizen in der Ostukraine haben dem ganzen den Rest gegeben.

                • branchial@feddit.deEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  Ja sorry dass ich neben nem zahnenden Kind und Hauhaltspflichten nicht die Zeit hab die ganzen Quellen die ich vor ein paar Monaten mir angeguckt habe zusammenzutragen und dir eine ausführliche Dissertation dazu zu bieten.

                  Wie gesagt lies mal was der Typ sonst so schreibt und ich denke es werden einige Zweifel an seinen Recherchefähigkeiten aufkommen.

                  • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
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                    1 year ago

                    Schade, dass Du trotz all Deiner ‘Haushaltspflichten und einem zahnenden Kind’ zwar Recherchen machen konntest, jetzt aber nicht mal die Quellen nennen kannst.

                    Ich habe mehrere, zum Beispiel hier noch eine aus 2020:

                    On Xinjiang, even those wary of Holocaust comparisons are reaching for the word “genocide”

                    … the confluence of recent testimonies and images out of Xinjiang have “produced alarming echoes of the atrocities of the Holocaust”—the horror that gave rise to the word “genocide" […]

                    "I have zero tolerance for analogies between current events and the Holocaust,” but that in the case of the Uyghurs “there is no alternative but to compare.” […]

                    … the Auschwitz Museum in Poland tweeted images showing Jews being deported to concentration camps, calling that “the last part of a long, slowly-developing process of humiliation, exclusion, persecution and hatred.” A spokesperson for the museum did not explicitly link the tweet to the video or to Xinjiang, but said that the museum hopes its tweets “might trigger some reflection about our contemporary responsibility for the world we live in.” […]

                    The president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews noted in a letter to ambassador Liu that “(p)eople being forcibly loaded on to trains; beards of religious men being trimmed; women being sterilised; and and the grim specter of concentration camps” bears similarities to “what happened in Nazi Germany 75 years ago.”