Unfortunately international media is not capturing the gravity of the German government winding around and refusing to say they abide by the ICC decision.
Here is todays gov. press conference in German. Maybe Youtube provides auto-translation. I think the faces and the way they talk can be understood even without knowing German.
It’s incredible how they can say nothing while speaking for 30 minutes. Gotta appreciate the very critical press though, refreshing to see. Where I live the press will ask what they had for lunch and then leave it at that.
Oh they’ve elevated it to an art form. They did actually say quite a lot while saying so little though, always pay close attention to what they’re comfortable talking about (such as Germany’s stance towards the ICC and the rule of law) vs. what they’re not comfortable talking about (what that stance implies, concretely, in this situation). If you think that’s unsatisfactory then they will, I quote, take notice of that, but they won’t humour you and spell out what can be inferred so you (or rather press) have a soundbite that would cause the foreign service diplomatic headaches.
And, yes, the journalists have also elevated making them squirm to an art form, to make sure that the interviewed officials don’t waffle when it is merely convenient, not expedient (at least according to the officials).
I think the faces and the way they talk can be understood even without knowing German
interesting statement. Especially from someone who speaks german like you do. I’ve seen some of your comments in german speaking lemmys and I am pretty sure that you are actually informed about how german politics work. So you know that Olaf Scholz along with his party SPD and by extension the coalition is weak, indecisive and bland. This exactly is the reason why they make a statement that boils down to “we’re not deciding anything right now but we can’t imagine arresting Netanyahu”. They are simply cowards and not the evil genocide loving villains you want to portrait here. You should really know better than spreading this polarising divisive crap. I know it’s easy and fun and you’ll get your upvotes, but that doesn’t make it true
We are not talking about indecision over lowering taxes or budget allocations. We are talking about Germany backing Israel and arming it, while very blatantly ignoring, relativising and sometimes denying Israeli crimes. We are talking about upholding international law for the prevention and punishment of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I watch every of the press conferences. The statements are almost identical to a year ago. And almost every conference, so two to three times a week, the topic comes up as yet another crime was committed so outrageously that it made news, or another report showed how systematic the crimes are.
And in this particular instance they were asked repeatedly, how come they didnt prepare for the warrants to happen and now they claim, that they would first have to look i to whether they recognize the ICCs authority, despite that having been ruled by the ICC in 2021 already.
This is all very deliberate. And it is not like the speakers just got the topic served today. They are giving these talking points and evasions consistently since a year. They are in full support of what they are saying as any decent human would have resigned from such a position long ago. Sometimes in the conferences you saw some of them seriously struggling emotionally, because something in them must have told them that it is wrong to reply to the intentional starvation of millions or the murder of children with “right to self defense and this is all Hamas fault.” Othertimes you can see them smirking like when they denied knowing anything about the pager attacks. Or a bit more recent regarding how they misrepresented the clashes in Amsterdam where one question was regarding the video of Maccabi hools hunting Amsterdam locals in the street that was misrepresented as Maccabi Hools being the victims instead of perpetraitors in this specific video. Hebestreit started attackinf the question asker, how he dares denying what has happened in Amsterdam, which the question wasn about at all.
They seem a bit cowardly now, that they got yet another slap by reality that is hard to ignore, but they have been the talking heads for the heinous conduct of thos government in regards to Israel happily for more than a year now.
Thanks for linking to the video. There is an auto translate option for it buried deep in the CC settings (at least there was for me).
My impression that I was left with is that the guy speaking is basically panicking because he doesn’t want to look bad.
My reaction is “Good. Let the bastards squirm!”
The German government has gone out of their way to silence any opposition to genocide. Fear of looking like a Nazi is the closest they will come to self awareness.
Unfortunately international media is not capturing the gravity of the German government winding around and refusing to say they abide by the ICC decision.
Here is todays gov. press conference in German. Maybe Youtube provides auto-translation. I think the faces and the way they talk can be understood even without knowing German.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NRl3X5nN4R4
It’s incredible how they can say nothing while speaking for 30 minutes. Gotta appreciate the very critical press though, refreshing to see. Where I live the press will ask what they had for lunch and then leave it at that.
Oh they’ve elevated it to an art form. They did actually say quite a lot while saying so little though, always pay close attention to what they’re comfortable talking about (such as Germany’s stance towards the ICC and the rule of law) vs. what they’re not comfortable talking about (what that stance implies, concretely, in this situation). If you think that’s unsatisfactory then they will, I quote, take notice of that, but they won’t humour you and spell out what can be inferred so you (or rather press) have a soundbite that would cause the foreign service diplomatic headaches.
And, yes, the journalists have also elevated making them squirm to an art form, to make sure that the interviewed officials don’t waffle when it is merely convenient, not expedient (at least according to the officials).
interesting statement. Especially from someone who speaks german like you do. I’ve seen some of your comments in german speaking lemmys and I am pretty sure that you are actually informed about how german politics work. So you know that Olaf Scholz along with his party SPD and by extension the coalition is weak, indecisive and bland. This exactly is the reason why they make a statement that boils down to “we’re not deciding anything right now but we can’t imagine arresting Netanyahu”. They are simply cowards and not the evil genocide loving villains you want to portrait here. You should really know better than spreading this polarising divisive crap. I know it’s easy and fun and you’ll get your upvotes, but that doesn’t make it true
We are not talking about indecision over lowering taxes or budget allocations. We are talking about Germany backing Israel and arming it, while very blatantly ignoring, relativising and sometimes denying Israeli crimes. We are talking about upholding international law for the prevention and punishment of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I watch every of the press conferences. The statements are almost identical to a year ago. And almost every conference, so two to three times a week, the topic comes up as yet another crime was committed so outrageously that it made news, or another report showed how systematic the crimes are.
And in this particular instance they were asked repeatedly, how come they didnt prepare for the warrants to happen and now they claim, that they would first have to look i to whether they recognize the ICCs authority, despite that having been ruled by the ICC in 2021 already.
This is all very deliberate. And it is not like the speakers just got the topic served today. They are giving these talking points and evasions consistently since a year. They are in full support of what they are saying as any decent human would have resigned from such a position long ago. Sometimes in the conferences you saw some of them seriously struggling emotionally, because something in them must have told them that it is wrong to reply to the intentional starvation of millions or the murder of children with “right to self defense and this is all Hamas fault.” Othertimes you can see them smirking like when they denied knowing anything about the pager attacks. Or a bit more recent regarding how they misrepresented the clashes in Amsterdam where one question was regarding the video of Maccabi hools hunting Amsterdam locals in the street that was misrepresented as Maccabi Hools being the victims instead of perpetraitors in this specific video. Hebestreit started attackinf the question asker, how he dares denying what has happened in Amsterdam, which the question wasn about at all.
They seem a bit cowardly now, that they got yet another slap by reality that is hard to ignore, but they have been the talking heads for the heinous conduct of thos government in regards to Israel happily for more than a year now.
Thanks for linking to the video. There is an auto translate option for it buried deep in the CC settings (at least there was for me).
My impression that I was left with is that the guy speaking is basically panicking because he doesn’t want to look bad.
My reaction is “Good. Let the bastards squirm!”
The German government has gone out of their way to silence any opposition to genocide. Fear of looking like a Nazi is the closest they will come to self awareness.