• Saleh
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    Why do you think a literal Nazi would be honest in his public endorsements and not just doing it for tactical reasons?

    Think about it. Trump supporters gonna Trump. This “endorsement” is aimed at harming Steins campaign with moderate and progressive voters, as is evident with the reaction here.

    Now the question is, why he wants to do that, as it helps the Harris campaign. What does he think he gains from helping Harris?

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      Wow. You didn’t even read the article, did you?

      Stein’s campaign seems to exists solely to harm the democratic nominee. This is pretty well known by many at this point. She doesn’t denounce Putin’s war crimes, uses Trumps lawyers….

      And now, a long-time Trump supporter is backing her, and you’re suggesting that it’s for the strategic purpose of hurting Jill’s chances? She never had a chance to begin with! She only exists to take votes like yours away from the only person capable of beating Trump.

      The Olympic-contending mental gymnast required to avoid the obvious here are impressive!

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        So you claim Steins goal is to siphon votes away from Harris in order to help Trump.

        So the target audience of Stein under that premise are center/progressive voters. The target audience clearly is not Trump voters.

        So even if Steins goal is solely to siphon votes from the Dems, any vote that goes to her is a “win” for her. And the opposite, any voter deciding to go back to Harris is a “loss” for her.

        Him endorsing Stein is clearly aimed at achieving the latter. You said it yourself,

        Stein’s campaign exists solely to harm the democratic nominee

        So her target audience are solely potential dem voters. And these are alienated by that endorsement, as is also very clear in this thread.

        So there is two options:

        A - the guy is a total moron
        B - he is achieving exactly what he wants

        A seems unlikely to me, as nazi leaders are despicable and evil, but smart and scheming.

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            So you agree that the nazi guy is helping Harris by him alienating progressive voters from Stein.

            Then you have to conclude that he is just very very dumb, or you have to agree with my statement, that he wants to harm Stein and help Harris. Which brings the important question, what does the nazi guy gain from helping Harris?

            As the guy was leading a large organization, him being dumb is unlikely. Him being good at scheming and manipulating on the other hand is very much on brand.

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              Do not build a strawman here bud.

              I never said any of those things. And therefore your conclusion is without an ounce of merit. What I am saying, is that he genuinely is in support of her because she aligns with his belief.

              Shills of a feather…

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                So you think that he beliefs his target audience to be Democrat voters?

                Or do you think he wants to siphon off votes of Trump?

                Because that would also help Harris, but contradict your statement regarding Stein being there to damage Harris and help Trump.

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                    So your argument is that any basic logic is a strawman, because you dont want to face the logical contradictions in your statements?

                    Lets go back to the start:

                    What do you think he wants to achieve?

                    Who do you think is his target audience for the endorsement?

                    What do you think are the goals of Steins campaign?