10-year-old Fatima Jaafar Abdullah was killed in pager explosions in Lebanon.

Israel murders another kid again.

  • oberstoffensichtlich
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    10 hours ago

    Pagers are usually carried by the owners, which in this case were Hezbollah combatants. So they knew where they were.

    The chaos is intended. Collateral damage has no benefit.

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      9 hours ago

      Even if you take the assumption for granted, no. They did not know any such thing. At all.

      First off, lets talk about the assumption- that the pager was issued to, and in the possession off, a hezbollah member.

      That’s it. That’s as far as they “knew”, and it’s really just an assumption. For all mossad knew, a few got passed around to friends or family. You know. “For their safety”, or something.

      Now onto how there was no knowledge of where those IEDs were physically located. Pagers are passive receivers. The pager network sends a signal, then pagers receive it and display a number or whatever.

      They don’t always do two-way communication, and given their reason for buying them… I doubt these are. Which means the pagers are entirely passive and probably would work over most the globe. As long as the pager (which is the receiver) is in range of its broadcast tower network (which probably includes satellites,) then they work.

      There’s a reason they’re used by emergency services, and it’s that drop-dead-simplicity and reliability.

      So no. Mossad or whoever did not know where rhe fucking bombs were. All they knew was that they were likely to be physically near targets of interest.

      But they had know way of knowing who had which pager (probably.) or where that pager was, or who else was around that pager.

      In short this is as indiscriminate as Russia’s use of cluster munitions on cities. It’s absolutely terrorism.

      We’d be starting WW 3 if hezbollah or hamas did this to Israel. So why are we tolerating this from Israel?

      • oberstoffensichtlich
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        8 hours ago

        Hezbollah is a serious and well organized terrorist group. Their members will get in serious trouble if they just give away their on duty pager. These are not toys or handed out as such for fun. Who gets a pager is controlled and tracked by Hezbollah. They know about Israel’s intelligence and surveillance capabilities. Using pagers in the first place is a security measure.

        Even in Lebanon smart phones are cheap and ubiquitous. Pagers are only useful for very niche use cases.

        they knew was that they were likely to be physically near targets of interest.

        Yes.

        In short this is as indiscriminate as Russia’s use of cluster munitions on cities.

        Ridiculous. A cluster munition covers a whole area with shrapnel indiscriminately. Tiny bombs carried by targets are a whole different category both as a weapon and effects wise.

        We’d be starting WW 3 if hezbollah or hamas did this to Israel

        Hamas has indiscriminately slaughtered civilians on October 7th and fires unguided rockets at inhabited areas. Hezbollah fires rockets into Israel constantly and indiscriminately, killing Druze children playing outside.

        The whole reason Israel did this attack is because Hezbollah just doesn’t want to stop attacking Israeli civilians.

        There’s no world war 3. Israel gets hated on and condemned every time they defend themselves against terrorists attacking their cities.