Jeff Bezos is a pussy.

You’re not wrong there.

I mean, you do understand that the Judiciary being the ones to push back is the only legal & constitutional route we can get out of this, right?

I hate to say it, but while Trump himself is pretty weak and just in it to save himself & for money, many of the people around him want nothing but power. And they are using Trump for that since he somehow continues to enthrall the populous.

Besides hoping the administration willingly decides to stop & undo the things it’s doing, I personally think the judiciary pushing back is the only thing you should hope for. In my eyes, it is the only path left with any chance of nonviolence, besides again, a willing change.

Do you have an alternative for me?

Yeah if she wasn’t CIA I’d perhaps understand her perspective of wanting to focus on just attacking Trump as the King

But… this issue is so beyond Trump that focusing it on him will just make people go back to normal when he’s gone - which is not okay

So they have arrested two judges. ICE and FBI are traitors.

They’ve told us what they’re going to (and want to) do every step of the way.

But Trump fans pretend stuff isn’t going to happen… even when it’s literally happening

On top of that, Trump is 100% going to try to stay for another term

I do not promote violence. You should not commit violence. It is generally not worth it. Mmkay? Want that to be 100% clear. Additionally, violence is what Trump wants so he has an excuse to declare martial law/suspend elections/etc. It’s very obvious. Violence = bad.

All that said, unless America lets itself descend into the authoritarian pit, I don’t see any way out that won’t involve violence at some point/level. We are beyond what was happening during the civil rights era. These people aren’t interested in compromise and working together. They want to dismantle America’s culture of diversity to replace it with their own.

I’m not sure there are any other methods that work if it comes down to it. Even people on the left are in denial; these people aren’t joking about wanting to attack libs. They’re actively preparing for it by calling all libs mentally ill, or that liberalism is a disease, etc.

Do you see what I’m saying? How are you going to try to argue with some of these people? Not all republicans are all in on this - but there’s enough in power that this is very, very dangerous

All I can say is that I truly hope the courts enforce the constitution. Bring those people back and give them due process. I don’t want them deported, but if that ends up happening, at least it’s legal &… I struggle to say humane.

Haha I tried to be… mostly vague

I’m not sure either. It’s really hard for me to come up with things since it took a breakup for me to WANT to change, and of course I’m lucky that it’s for the positive.

I really hope it doesn’t take such powerful inciting incidents for a significant portion of them to change how they feel.

Were you not young before/after the start of the internet? Not trying to be snarky, it’s more trying to understand perspective.

I could have been MAGA, no question. Here’s my anecdote: (edit: too lazy to correct so please don’t pay close attention to the tense of my words here, I was partially speaking from the perspective of being a kid again but I didn’t stay consistent)

• been a loner irl. Not that many friends
• most of my friends are online
• most of my friends say offensive stuff and while I don’t really mean things (at first) I want to fit in
• this can spiral pretty easily with a bunch of kids. And it did. I’ve said my fair share of atrocious things online that I wish I could take back
• as a youngster, 20+ years ago, as a loner/nerd if I’m not playing games, I’m (probably) watching YouTube or anime. Rarely hangin with friends
• now as someone who’s book smart(well, on some things, ofc), but especially at this point has absolutely 0 like street smarts & real people skills? Hooked into conspiracies.

I grew up in a diverse area, so I’ve really never believed in racist stuff. Those kind of conspiracies I used to just handwave the racism stuff away cause it wasn’t the important stuff to me that I did kind of believe in. I literally even used to watch some of Alex Jones conspiracy videos.

Really easy to get lost in this crap as a teenager alone at 4am.

Like I said I grew up in a diverse area, and in one of my first real relationships, I got a lot of pushback about certain things (I was kinda blue lives matter for a bit for example) and when that ended, one of the big things I took from it was I wanted to be a more accepting person, and I’ve been an increasingly-raging leftist ever since.

With the rising loneliness epidemic (which actually extends to both genders - EVERYONE is increasingly isolated) I can only imagine this sort of story is increasingly common. And not everyone comes to the same conclusions about wanting to be more accepting, etc.

I was very lucky to go through those experiences and learn what I did from it. There’s probably another universe where I instead got increasingly angry & further into all those things - from the cruel & crass words to the conspiracies - and am wearing a red hat

🤮🤮 at the thought of that

They will gaslight this country to its death.

Some of these guys are very, very dangerous and will push us towards civil war before they give up power.

Remember that violence is what they want so they have an excuse to crack down and use martial law, etc.

The Courts must uphold the rule of law despite these threats. This is (supposed to be) America. We are not free unless everyone has due process.

He’s a loser. As are all his “dark enlightenment” apartheid neo-Nazi bootlickers :-)

Thanks for the feedback. I have never used a paid version, so my opinion has a hole there. I’d also add in that there’s been plenty of screenshots of Grok itself crapping on Elon. So it’s definitely not entirely censored.

Yet. :)

Because most of these (if not all) are literally meant to placate you.

Try asking stuff about like politicians who might be dictators. When it refuses to tell label people, ask it why, and then question those answers.

Albeit I am primarily referencing Trump here, and it won’t label democrats either, if you live in reality then just… cmon… cmon. Try asking it for, say, numerical comparisons to Hitler. Not sure about others, but Copilot will just tell you that’s off limits.

It all but tells you it’s meant to create engaging conversations more than anything else. They easily fudge numbers all the time, so…

LLM is only as informative as whoever is controlling it allows it to be, just like social media, traditional media, etc.

I hate how much I sound like the old conspiracy heads lmfao.

🤮

When 4chan becomes… “reality”

Buddy if you can’t hold more than 2 thoughts in your head there’s no real discussion to be had lmfao. The longer you are in denial about Russia the more power they have.

What are we personally gonna do about Russia? If you mean by force - nothing. Don’t fight a land war in Asia. (In fact, conquest & imperialism is bad, mmkay?) Bombing our enemies only makes hardened future enemies. But they are attacking every democracy, and they are assaulting ours via MAGA. That is useful to get people to see. Russia, and their agents, are not working for you/us. They are infiltrating and co-opting governments around the world.

If you can’t or won’t see it you’re just blind. 🤷🏻

Absolute dogwater argument. That I’m distracting or don’t see Weimar parallels because I also understand/see how Russia has been attacking everyone 😂😂😂😂 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 I’m trying to focus on unity and the many issues we are facing

And you’re here crying like a bitch “but nooo stop with Russia bad”

Are you Russian?

From the court’s mouth itself:

"It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing to be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans removed far from our courthouses still hold dear."

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf

There’s no loophole here… republicans managed to take over every branch of government and are willingly destroying the constitution because their views matter more to them than America & democracy do.

It’s usually called treason 🤷🏻

Tech Bros like Musk & Thiel spent too much time on 4chan & doing drugs, and with some help with certain other entities, have been spinning 4chan into reality.

I don’t have the story you’re referencing. But Curtis Yarvin has a quote about that basically his vision for overthrowing democracy was splintering off everybody by spinning fictional realities… INTO reality.

Partially by splitting everybody into, say different cities (or different social media) where it’s easier to control what people are seeing

🥲

As someone who could have been an incel, it’s been horrifying to see 4chan become normalized, become elected and is becoming reality.