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@Kirk @Mbingu Vulcans have a hecking complex culture. Their attachment to logic and eschewing of emotions is as iconic to the Vulcans as Honor is to the Klingons … And equally False.

We see, many, many, many times a Klingon Empire willing to eschew Honor and Glory for personal ends, monetary ends, and outright cruelty (Gowron ordering Martok around anyone?, The entire Duras family, that one guy from Drumhead)

We see this with the Vulcans too. We know they have FAR more intense emotions Humans do, and the repression of emotions takes an actual medical toll (Bendii Syndrome). We also see Vulcans (Sarek, T’Pol, Sybok, T’Lyn, Dr. Selar, Soval) who clearly allow at least a near human level of emotions through. (Then we have the logicians and logical purists, which… Explain to me the logic of terrorism in a species that supposedly feels no fear or terror…)

Ultimately, the Vulcans won’t fail, they’ve been through crazy changes and schisms. They won’t fail because everything is still their, it’s just how they choose to express it sociologically.

I did a presentation on this at a con…

@xploit @ValueSubtracted

And Usenet, potentially faster with the number of NNTP servers in the Netherlands.

@MalikMuaddibSoong @data1701d

Section 31 is a heist movie, but has no Quark.

I think the closest we get with Quark is the one where they have to Weekend at Bernie’s that Vorta to get Moogie back.