Even with services like Proton (big company in the privacy realm) etc, you can only fully trust yourself.

That’s why documents are always client side encrypted before I send my data, to any cloud platform.

Exactly. I will never understand why people have their secret GPG-key on services like Tuta or Proton instead of on their own devices. 😂

I’m curious how long this will last. Kraken is the last rock in the storm. I can imagine that Cake/Trocador/Changenow/Majestic/Godex/etc. will also buy XMR from Kraken. Kraken is the only Fiat XMR gateway I know of. Fed and Gov could have simply closed this last fiat on/off ramp. It may be that Haveno makes it easier for US-Kraken XMR to continue to exist.

This was a topic in Haveno Simplex a few days ago. Not directly KYC but bank transfer or credit card number is necessary.

Cake wallet has only been running on Debian for a few weeks and is in beta. I have never bought through it or from any SWAPS. In the past, I bought XMR almost exclusively via limit buy on Binance & Kraken. And you know what I’ve been doing since five months 😅

At least in the US. You could register an LLC and trade from Europe. Costs about €1500.

KYC

Even with KYC, you can no longer get XMR in Europe. 😒 Anycoindirect & Litebit -> Down. Binance & Kraken delist XMR Haveno (Haveno-reto) is exactly the right thing at the right time.

The reason I don’t use Haveno is because, all I’ve wanted since the beginning, was a simple UI like the now-defunct Wizardswap where I could say “Convert X XMR for Y BTC” and that was it. A user interface similar to Morphtoken.

For this purpose https://serai.exchange/ & https://unstoppableswap.net/ is being developed. You are welcome to help further develop, beta test or donate so that developers get paid.

If more people helped instead of just complaining and waiting for others to do it, things would be much better in the Monero community.

Back when Haveno started, it seemed like they were going to go down this route, but alas, we have an overcomplex GUI and network designed for fiat on/off ramp that, while many people ask for, doesn’t bring much liquidity and doesn’t have many people use.

?? Haveno is a Bisq fork and it has been clear for 4 years what it will be. A Bisq fork without DAO and mainly a Fiat <-> XMR gateway. Because that is exactly what was needed, which the latest news from Kraken makes clear again.