I’m sorry you saw that stuff on the matrix its not what I stand for

Thats called the radical flank effect: the theory is that 20% of activists do 80% of the effective work and they provide a base for moderate vegans to onboard new vegans from, think of it like a curve where at each step of the way there is the option to go further, this is generally how radicalisation works but here the more effect work is down by the radical flank of veganism the longer and broader the tail of that curve becomes, for example think about how there now exists vegan tyre options from Michelin, that is infinitely better than if there wasn’t, and the fact that major restaurants all provide vegan options, it makes it harder and harder to justify the killing in more and more cirumstances, in your case you went vegetarian but because there is a radicalisation curve at each stage you were probably presented with more opportunities to take it further

Thank you very much I hope to raise awareness and put more pressure on companies

Thank you, I’m not sure if its every Micheliln tyre but they certainly released at least one vegan tyre product youll have to double check!

ok i will try to be considerate

Yeah I put this at the end notes of the post :) I get them too from uk they ship to a few countries

I’m so happy to hear that! (ive never heard of wild cosmetics maybe theyre not in the UK) but yeah I might want to try hosting like zip files we can keep updated in a SimpleX community we can have one room read only where the latest zip files are uploaded and a sister room linked together where anyone can post. SimpleX is important for vegans so we can support eachother in direct action by affording other activists the cover of what is imo the gold standard of private messaging (post quantum encryption and metadata privacy and no unique user ids) even if we don’t take spicy actions ourselves

Yeah some part of me knows that or I wouldnt be using websites at all for fear of the hard drives that sustain it carrying animal flesh in their inks glues and plastics, but I just feel this incredible pressure and the worst part is for 4 years I thought I was divorced from this psycho shit, I thought, yeah I can do more to help others go vegan but as for me: I don’t pay for animal body parts in anything that I buy directly at least, then I think the first one I found out about was ink so I was like ok there seems to be vegan pens and printer ink and vegan hair dye and what not this doesnt seem too hard, but its when I found out that the vegan society doesnt even look at product packaging that it started getting hard. As for like mental strain what would you think of someone who said I needed cheering up so I got a dairy ice cream, like you could just not right. Buying that ice cream is murder

I would love if you pinned this post!

Please don’t call animals it, they are someone not something, changing the language around the oppression has a widespread knock on effect to changing people’s negative opinions towards non human animals

I am against that yes, there are more humane ways to protect yourself from insects including mosquito repellant and I think theres like a super high pitched noise they don’t like

No social justice movement has ever been successful by appealing to the sensibilities of the oppressor, I fully support confronting animal abusers to change their behaviour, it worked on me and it worked on the 8 people I’ve directly helped go vegan, I’m 4y vegan btw

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oh I completely missed the end of the sentence you were talking about buying a hairbrush im so dumb

Conversion rate for what kind of prices?

Thank you, I have seen there is little information collated about vegan instruments, this could be one of the only sources on the english internet for this

Could you include proof? if theyre email screenshots or too much for a lemmy post maybe you could link to a file hosting site and host a zip?

ah alright I’ll have a look, I just hope the information from yourself and others doesnt become too disorganised and hard to find

Thank you, if you could edit the comments to include your source that would be really helpful for ppl, otherwise see my longer response :)

what would you suggest as an open source tool for that, I would like to try and work something out on simplex because theyre one of only 2 open source social media sites I know of to have post quantum encryption which if you didnt know quantum computers can provably break most encryption its just a matter of time before they have enough qubits, but due to the method called harvest now decrypt later corpos and govts are hoovering up encrypted data en masse thinking “itll be super cheap to decrypt all this before we know it” and then they can use AI systems to filter through it all and build personalised surveillance profiles like they already do, except it will be on data people thought was private forever