Oh it absolutely is when you completely ignore the fact that it’ll happen with or without Biden in office. None of you even bother to acknowledge it, even try to discuss it, or have a counter argument for it. You don’t talk about how it’s congress that’s pushing the support. You don’t talk about how this has been going on since the 40’s. You don’t suggest another candidate that would win November.

You just pretend that ONLY Biden is responsible for it. And you do nothing but spread propaganda so that people won’t vote against Trump.

None of you are as clever as you think you are.

That’s the topic of conversation here.

So you clearly admit that it’s happening regardless of who’s president. Only with Trump the LGBTO+ will suffer greatly. As will women’s rights. Out education system. Oh, and expect that we’ll be a Christian state from 2025 on. And that means a lot more suffering for everyone.

But you don’t really give a shit about Americans, do you?

No one is finger wagging for criticizing. They’re being chastised because they whining to everyone how they’re refusing to vote.

Criticize the fuck out of him. I don’t see anyone giving a shit about that-

FUCKING VOTE ANYWAY.

Well said, but sadly they are a lot of people here that don’t care. Which is ironic, considering the meme.

Future Band.

God I wish I had your patience.

Yes he is. Without a doubt.

Yes he is. Without a doubt.

he’s giving that fascist rapist the best chance he’s got at winning the white house

Naaah… people like you are doing that.

So you think trade agreements that go back decades and overcoming partisan congressional policy is simple?

Why aren’t you doing it then, bud?

Because from where I see things, just simply saying:

“I don’t like when he cOmMiTs a gEnOciDe!”

isn’t doing shit to stop it- and is only hurting the chances anyone has to not make it exponentially worse when Donald “let’s finish the job” Trump takes over.

Because you see, although you seem to get upset when I call people propagandists, it’s not a huge leap to make when you’ve asked these people time and time again how they can justify urging people not to vote knowing it’ll be so much worse if Trump wins. How about I start calling them “bigots” because they will knowingly be causing our LGBTQ+ friends and family to suffer by allowing a Trump victory to happen. Or what about I call them “misogynists” for allowing Trump to win and run roughshod over women’s rights?

Considering the matter at hand, I think propagandist is a nice and relevant catch-all to describe those that are urging people not to vote against Trump.

Oh also, most of these people have no suggestions for who they’d have take Biden’s place that has any chance of winning the White House, but they seem to k ow Biden is not the guy. Again, from where I stand- if you’re not offering a solution to your suggestion, it’s not a valid suggestion. Someone gets elected regardless if you vote or not.

So if it’s okay with you, I’m going to call out the propaganda when I see it- as I see it without your permission.

Cool?

Cool. Keep doing nothing at all about it and then keep complaining that nothing has changed.

Propagandist. (Only doing what you asked)

I’m seeing that you seem to have no problem with all the “don’t vote!” And anti-Biden bullshit here. So maybe we shouldn’t be taking a stance on the bias of others here, hmmmm?

A quick and handy chart to illustrate how you can easily remove the hard work and cost it takes to actually have talent and creativity!

Cool. So not voting is still not going to bring change either. So…

We can agree to disagree. I’m not down with debating the topic where it’s required to read walls of text that are mostly irrelevant to the point.

Not voting is NOT going to create the change these idiots want. Period.

End of story.

Outraged enough yet? No?

Expect a LOT more of this if you keep urging people to not vote this year. Because this is a tase of what’s to come.

Okay.

Okay… either purposefully or not- you’re twisting the topic into something else.

If you’re voting- good. If you’re not, you’re part of the problem. It isn’t “Biden or Bust” it’s “Democracy or Bust” and it’s late enough in the game that everyone knows this. I’m not going to argue the nuance of the situation. We’re past that. If you want the change you so badly desire, maybe do the work between elections- and if you have been, maybe stand with us against those that are using your work to represent the ideology that not voting nets change.

Because it’s undermining everything you’ve done.

I’m done discussing this.

Well, what I’m talking about- and always have been- are the people urging everyone not to vote- while pretending to give a shit about things happening in other countries. Those using the suffering of other people as a platform to get people to not vote- either because thy are so misguided and ignorant about how things work, or are actively trying to work against democracy.

Regardless of the reason- not voting doesn’t fix the problem. Regardless of the term “SJW” or whatever you wish to call them- THEY are who I’m talking about.

This is just like a joke my girlfriend and I have on the subject :

Google “how to remove a splinter”

Result: “You may have cancer. Here’s the top 20 paid results regarding things that have nothing to do with your problem.