Im considering buying a new phone and i don’t really consider a Pixel. I really like Fairphones approach, with the self repairable stuff. Even though they don‘t have a headphone jack. But well… I can’t change it. I’ll definitely go with the adapter over wireless headphones.

But to my question: What private OSes are there? Fairphone sells FP4s with eOS, how is that? And does it work on the FP5? GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixels right?

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    Can you explain that? Why is Fairphone problematic?

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      Well, whether anything is problematic or not is highly subjective.

      Do you consider no headphone jack to be problematic? Or that some think it was done intentionally to push their wireless headphones?

      What about the use of slave labor? After realizing it was impossible to get away from that, they tweaked their slogan from a fair phone to a “fairer” phone.

      How about the high price and little demand?

      See what I mean? One person’s problem is not everyone’s.

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        I do consider the missing headphone jack a problem, but are other brands better? I did not research any of this, but don‘t other brands do the same. Considering this, I think Fairphone is one of the better phone producers. Im not saying they are the best or that they do nothing wrong. And please correct me if I’m wrong, I think the high prices come from the higher loans and better quality materials than other brands.

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          I think the point is, why avoid buying a more mainstream phone like a pixel if even fairphone can’t avoid slave labour? The two big reasons why people go for fairphones is ethicality of the manufacturing process (labour and environmental impact) and modularity/fixability. If their labour is unethical then that means they lose one of their most important appeals. The horrific treatment of miners in the global south is easily one of if not the most significant issue with modern phone manufacture.

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              Where did I say it was all or nothing. I don’t think you’re reading anything me or the other person is saying

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                  I didn’t say it didn’t matter.

                  Other phones have advantages over Fairphone. Nobody buys a Fairphone because they think it has the most cutting-edge features. They buy it because they believe it’s more ethical. So any way in which Fairphone fails to be significantly more ethical than mainstream phones, is a reason to go for mainstream phones instead, as Fairphone loses its main advantage.

                  You acknowledged yourself that Fairphone is also environmentally superior to its competitors, such as Google

                  I didn’t say this. I said that believing Fairphone is more environmentally friendly is a reason why people go for Fairphone. For the record I do believe its emissions are lower but I don’t believe it to be environmentally friendly because I don’t think there’s any eco-friendly way to make modern smartphones, but that’s besides the point, I never commented either way on what I think of Fairphone’s environmental policies, only its labour policies.