• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    I guess I just don’t understand how to square that position with:

    I just wish people would do that without justifying it.

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      5 months ago

      I mean voting 3rd part or no-voting. If you want to do that, it is your right. The outcome of doing that is going against your interests. So, you don’t really have a political strategy argument for doing it.

      I have found a few people that just didn’t want to feel bad about voting 3rd party. And that is fine, you don’t have feel bad. You can vote how you want. But they felt like they need to create a reason for why they are voting 3rd party or no voting. This is what I think is harming the community. Creating the reason or justifying it when there was no rationality backing it and spreading it like it is a good reason is what irks me. It’s spreading misinformation.

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        5 months ago

        Even people who run as a 3rd party candidate are helping by spreading ideas.

        So, you don’t really have a political strategy argument for doing it.

        I’m so confused by your position.

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          5 months ago

          Ok, I think I understand the confusion. Running for a 3rd party and voting 3rd party are two different things.

          I think that running for a 3rd party has good outcomes, it generates news and discussion and gets your ideas out in front of a lot of people. Maybe, when the time is right, you won’t be a 3rd party anymore and become one of the mainstream parties.

          I think that voting for a 3rd party has bad outcomes. As our previous discussions, thanks to the dumb first past the post. Only the two most popular candidates matter. So you should vote for the lesser evil even if they suck (and they will).

          When a 3rd party candidate becomes popular enough they edge out one of the standard party candidates and the voting strategy changes in our favor.