we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

        • Lumisal@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          5 months ago

          I did read the thing, then provided an article explaining why detecting copyrighted material / determining if something is written by AI is very inaccurate.

          Perhaps take your own advice to “read the fucken thing” next time instead of making yourself look like an idiot. Though I doubt you’ve ever heard of “better to stay silent and let them think you the fool than to speak and remove all doubt”.

          Btw, I even recall that Ars specifically covered the company you linked to in a separate article as well. I’d be glad to provide it once you’ve come to your senses and want to discuss things like an adult.

          • froztbyte@awful.systems
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            14
            ·
            5 months ago

            Mistral’s Mixtral-8x7B-Instruct-v0.1 produced copyrighted content on 22% of the prompts.

            did you know that a lesser-known side effect of the infinite monkeys approach is that they will produce whole sections of copyright content abso-dupo-lutely by accident? wild, I know! totes coinkeedink!

            I’d be glad to provide it once you’ve come to your senses and want to discuss things like an adult

            jesus fucking christ you must be a fucking terrible person to work with

            I’ve seen toddlers throw more mature tantrums

            • Lumisal@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              9
              ·
              5 months ago

              I’m too old to discuss against bad faith arguments.

              Especially with people who won’t read the information I provide them showing their initial information was wrong.

              One is a company that has something to sell, the other an article with citations showing why it’s not easy to determine what percentage of a data set is infringing on copyright, or whether exact reproduction via “fishing expedition” prompting is a useful metric to determine if unauthorized copyright was used in training.

              The dumbest take though is attacking Mistral of all LLMs, even though it’s on an Apache 2.0 license.

              • froztbyte@awful.systems
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                11
                ·
                edit-2
                5 months ago

                I’ve read the article you’ve posted: it does not refute the fucking datapoint provided, it literally DOES NOT EVEN MENTION MISTRAL AT ALL.

                so all I can tell you is to take your pearlclutching tantrum bullshit and please fuck off already

                • self@awful.systems
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  11
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  god these weird little fuckers’ ability to fill a thread with garbage is fucking notable isn’t it? something about loving LLMs makes you act like an LLM. how depressing for them.

                  • pyrex@awful.systems
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    11
                    ·
                    5 months ago
                    • high willingness to accept painfully inexact responses
                    • high tendency to side with authority when given no information
                    • low ability to distinguish “how it is” from “how it seems like it should be”

                    Meta:

                    • default expectation that others are the same way
                    • indignant consent-ignoring gesture if they’re not
                  • earthquake@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    9
                    ·
                    5 months ago

                    To think that when sneer club/techtakes migrated to lemmy, I was pretty sure we would not be getting a lot of incidental traffic to the communities. Just about as wrong as you can be.

          • Steve@awful.systems
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            5 months ago

            you’re conflating “detecting ai text” with “detecting an ai trained on copyrighted material”

            send the relevant article or shut up

            • Lumisal@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              11
              ·
              5 months ago

              Ignoring the logical inconsistency you just spouted for a moment (can’t tell if it’s written by AI but knows it used copyrighted material? Do you not hear yourself?), you do realize Mistral is released under the Apache 2.0 license, a highly permissive scheme that has no restrictions on use or reproduction beyond attribution, right?

              I think it’s clear you’re arguing in bad faith however with no intention of changing your misinformed opinion at this point. Perhaps you’d enjoy an echo chamber like the “fuckai” Lemmy instance.

              • self@awful.systems
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                12
                ·
                5 months ago

                wait a minute… there’s another “fuck ai” instance and they’ve already told you to go fuck yourself?

                I wonder if they want to be friends

                • froztbyte@awful.systems
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  10
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  5 months ago

                  have seen one on lemmy.world. it’s kinda the dancing baby version of the stubsack and techtakes tho from what I can tell

                  • self@awful.systems
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    9
                    ·
                    5 months ago

                    aw, it’s only a community? that’s what I get for expecting anything but garbage from Oscar the Grouch I suppose

              • self@awful.systems
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                9
                ·
                5 months ago

                holy shit you really are quite dumb. the fuck is wrong with you?

                actually don’t answer that