Everybody loves Wikipedia, the surprisingly serious encyclopedia and the last gasp of Old Internet idealism!

(90 seconds later)

We regret to inform you that people write credulous shit about “AI” on Wikipedia as if that is morally OK.

Both of these are somewhat less bad than they were when I first noticed them, but they’re still pretty bad. I am puzzled at how the latter even exists. I had thought that there were rules against just making a whole page about a neologism, but either I’m wrong about that or the “rules” aren’t enforced very strongly.

    • BussyGyatt
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      Its fine if you don’t want to do the ‘homework,’ but op doesn’t get to complain about the rules not being enforced on the notoriously democratic editable-by-anyone wikipedia and refuse to take up the trivial ‘homework’ of starting the rule violation procedure. The website is inherently a ‘be the change you want to see in the world’ platform.

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        Counterpoint: I get to complain about whatever I want.

        I could write a lengthy comment about how a website that is nominally editable by “anyone” is in practice a walled garden of acronym-spouting rules lawyers who will crush dissent by a thousand duck nibbles. I could elaborate upon that observation with an analogy to Masto reply guys and FOSS culture at large.

        Or I could ban you for fun. I haven’t decided yet. I’m kind of giddy from eating a plate of vegan nacho fries and a box of Junior Mints.

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          acronym-spouting rules lawyers who will crush dissent by a thousand duck nibbles

          hey now, my duck nibbling is thoroughly weaponised

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          I could elaborate upon that observation with an analogy to Masto reply guys and FOSS culture at large.

          Please do, I wanna see FOSS get raked over the coals

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          acronym-spouting rules lawyers

          That’s pretty much the response I got offering even extremely mild dissent from AI spam. Apparently, “WP:MNA” means you can just make shit up as long as industry blog posts rely on that wild fever dream being true, for instance. Handy!

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        there’s something fucking hilarious about you and your friend coming here to lecture us about how Wikipedia works, but explaining the joke to you is also going to be tedious as shit and I don’t have any vegan nacho fries or junior mints to improve my mood

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            Wikipedia rules make more sense when you understand they are entirely to keep the most pedantic nerds on earth from fighting

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            oh yeah, I’m waiting for David to wake up so he can read the words

            the trivial ‘homework’ of starting the rule violation procedure

            and promptly explode, cause fielding deletion requests from people like our guests who don’t understand wikipedia’s rules but assume they’re, ah, trivial, is probably a fair-sized chunk of his workload

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            The relevant policy is about 2 paragraphs explaining 1 edit to the page indicating your reason for nominating it for deletion, as well as contributing to the talk page discussion on the matter. Yes, “trivial.” If that’s somehow too much ‘homework’ for you, I’m sure you can feed the page into the LLM of your choice and ask it to compress the instructions down to a single paragraph of small words and to generate the edit to the page if that’s more your speed.

            Anyway, I’m sure you’ll be pleased to know it was nominated for deletion last night by someone named David Gerard.

            enjoy your vegan nachos and brand-name mints.