Just wait till u find out that food is on average 30% cheaper at aldi in general. Did u know that if u write a bot that pulls all the data from the online stores for woolies/coles/aldi and upload that data in a big comparison table to rhw intent then woolies will send u a cease and desist.
That’s interesting, is their issue that you scraped their data? If so, then fair enough - that’s technically their intellectual property.
If you have people going into stores and getting the prices, I don’t believe they’d have a legal leg to stand on.
that’s technically their intellectual property
No it’s not. You can’t copyright a fact, only its presentation. There might be some laws that they could legitimately use to stop you doing this, but it wouldn’t be copyright.
But, that’s exactly what they’ve got. Presentation of prices. If you take it from their presentation, I can see their issue. If you send people into stores to gather those facts for yourself, they don’t have a legal leg to stand on.
What I don’t really understand is why they take issue in the first place. You’re effectively advertising for them on your site.
No, the price is a fact. If the price were included in a paragraph of prose, that prose could be copyrighted. The whole design and layout of their site could maybe be considered creative enough to be copyrighted. But the raw numbers cannot.
I’m not at all versed in the legalese, perhaps I’m using the wrong term (IP). We are in agreement that they can’t do anything about your site having their prices listed.
What they probably can do something about is you taking that data from their API or website without authorisation. If it isn’t called Intellectual Property, then let’s call it “Woolies doesn’t like that” law.
There might be something they can do with respect to “unauthorised computer access” laws. I don’t really know much about our laws in that area. But failing that, I can’t imagine there’s anything they can do to get them in legal trouble.
They could absolutely revoke API keys, though that would not prevent a blunter web scraping tactic.
Allegedly they where complaining about improper use of their api. Btw did u know that their api is very easy to reverse engineer and they issue a new api key as a cookie every time u visit the consumer website.
Ritzy shit, I’m cooking up dried beans at 2 $/kg
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Starting with lamb cutlets, the cheapest was Famous Halal Quality Meat & Groceries, where they cost $19.99 a kg.
As part of our search, we also purchased four T-bone steaks (Famous Halal Quality Meat & Groceries does not carry them).
Chicken breast bucked the trend by coming in at least 50 cents cheaper at the supermarkets – costing $14 a kg at both Woolworths and Coles.
A Woolworths spokesperson said it was “difficult to make a like-for-like” comparison between “supermarkets and meat vendors who sell through public marketplaces like the Queen Victoria Market and have different business models and customer offerings”.
“The products sold across retailers can be sourced differently – Woolworths purchases premium cattle and lamb to a very tight quality specification, with its beef being independently certified through the Meat Standards Australia program.
Earlier this year, Guardian Australia found that buying in bulk from Sydney’s fruit and vegetable market cost barely 30% of supermarket prices.
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Christ the fact the dude couldn’t just leave it at ‘no shit dedicated butchers sell meat at cheaper prices’ but had to paragraph anout their quality pisses me off sdm. Cram your sales pitch up your arse, your meat is generally shittier than butchers
Theirs may be better. And theirs may be cheaper. But we pay cerrifiers to make sure our quality meets the strictest standards of acceptable for human consumption.
Jesus, $14 per kg for chichen breast? I can get it for $2.50 a lbs.
Saw this somewhere else on Lemmy:
Certainly interesting, but I feel like the X-axis needs to somehow account for all the valuable qualities of the food. If we’re wanting to compare meats and meat alternatives, that means at least protein, iron, and energy, not just protein.
Eh iron isn’t very meaningfull. Most beans and lentils and stuff are pretty rich in it. Anemia is usually caused by bleeding or iron malabsorption over diet. Stuff like eating cheese with meals inhibits iron absorption because of calcium amounts.
kJ are but mostly because meats and seeds are very fatty which for everyone not starving makes them even worse sources.
Probs worth comparing kJ energy too as raw mass isn’t the whole picture. Like trying to get your rdi from peanuts will be interesting…
It is also worth some thoughts about complete protein combos and digestibility but unless you are literally trying to avoid starvation and accidentally just eat lentils and rice for all your meals you will be fine.
In general, unless you’re a professional athlete a budget diet that meets your needs will look something like oat or baked bean breakfast (BBs you’ll want some extra energy from bread or whatever), leftovers from last night for lunch, a dinner rotating through beans and lentils. Daal, curries, stews and so on. Random reasonal veg and some greens to get variety. Greens can be pricey, but if you have a garden or a patch of ground you know isn’t poisoned warrigal greens grow like a weed, dandelion greens taste pretty nice, and so does milk thistle actually! just learn to ID them and never pick from roadside.
That’s how I’ve avoided starvation while also eating well in the past.
I feel like kj would stray into an overly technical area. Cool, yeah, but probably not what people worry about.
A sat fat / cholesterol graph might be interesting as well.
Butchers don’t want you to know this but kidney beans beat cow on protein content gram for gram. They’re also cheaper and more ethical.
Meat is a luxury good, in both the financial and moral sense.
@naevaTheRat @Baku what is the best kidney bean burger pattie recipe?
Oooh that’s a tricky one. May as well ask what’s the best curry!
I actually favour tvp (don’t buy in colesworth, more than 8 bucks a kilo is criminal extortion, get it in 10 kg bags online) or black bean burgers.
Try these:
Also colesworth/aldis etc will extort you on the price of lentils/legumes/pulses. I’ve seen dried beans costing as much as 10 bucks a kilo lmfao. Check out Indian and chinese catering grocers or bulk sellers online (shipping varies, keep that on mind). Pre recession my price was 2 bucks a kilo for most of my bulk protein sources, now 4 to 8 but that’s capitalism baby.
Colesworth pricing on tvp is fucking obscene. I usually hit up asian markets, you get fifty times for the same price
(Also buyasianfood for the lamyong)
