• SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    or, you know, just switch to linux. several distros are basically just as usable out of box as anything microsoft has released.

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    1 year ago

    They really should. Windows 11 has the bullshit “requirement” of needing SecureBoot so it can’t work on BIOS motherboards, only UEFI ones. This is different than saying you no longer support 32 bit CPUs. There’s no reason to require fucking SecureBoot. Seriously. It’s like someone saying they won’t sell you a TV if your house doesn’t have a lock in the door and then advertising their TV as secure because of that.

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      1 year ago

      Your entire statement here stems from not knowing what you’re talking about. That’s OK. I’ll provide some insight.

      Secure Boot is a security feature of UEFI that only allows trusted, cryptographically signed operating systems to boot. The nature of this prevents rootkits. Software that runs before the OS and injects itself. BIOS has many hard limitations and disadvantages over the modern standard that is UEFI. Your comparison going from 32 to 64 bit architecture is quite fitting. It’s not that different. There are many hard limitations and disadvantages to 32 bit. It’s unfit for today’s standards due to lack of features and security. All aspects of technology have to move forward.

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        1 year ago

        Yes, but you could still buy a new motherboard without UEFI support a year ago, and there are still some units in stock online.

        It’s way, way too early to drop support of an OS that is the latest version that can be run on hardware that current.

        People who spent 3 grand building a computer in 2021 should be able to have OS support for at least a decade. They can’t upgrade their OS, so the latest OS they could purchase should be maintained longer.

  • NightOwl@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    I’m still on Windows 10. Are the complaints people have over windows 11 overblown or valid?

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      1 year ago

      They changed a lot of the UI, and removed customization options. IMO, it looks worse now, and everything is even less powerful, as in the right click menus have way less options now. Means your workflow will be bad for the next few months, some things may not be possible at all anymore, and it’s not even consistent through every UI element. There are still XP, Vista and even 3.11 elements buried deep in Windows 11.
      To actually get Win 11 to a usable state takes a lot of time, days, and then there’s ongoing maintenance to mitigate what M$ changes for you, e.g. your default browser settings.
      It’s way too filled with ads, bloat and anti-user stuff to provide a good or even acceptable workflow.

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      1 year ago

      Please let me keep these old chains for a bit longer!

      We must continue to improve freedom-respecting operating systems so that more users will switch.

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        1 year ago

        Freedom respecting operating systems have been painless for most machines for at least a decade at this point, for that long anyone could have installed an easy distro and just used it normally. The problem now with getting people to switch is that they expect zero adjustment period, when they could just get used to something new that still functions 95% the same as Windows on the user’s side.

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          I don’t know how rare it is, but it hasn’t really been painless on laptops from my experience. I’ve had to deal with trying to find the right kernel parameters to stop my laptop from freezing, to having an incredibly high default scroll speed which I’ve still haven’t figured out how to change, to having to ask the orange alien place to figure out why my Internet card was not working. It may just seem like a hassle to some people, but I believe for most, it’s enough of a hassle to just give up and go back to Windows.

          • AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de
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            1 year ago

            Last time I used Ubuntu it had made some really bad UI decisions. The scrollbars and grab areas to resize windows was 1px wide, making it pretty mich impossible to use. There was no setting in the system preferences, but I had to run some command overwriting some config …

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    1 year ago

    Windows 10 came out in 2015, 10 years seems like a plenty decent lifespan.

    Windows 11 came out in 2021, so 10 users will have had 4 years to upgrade.

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      Windows 10 was supposed to be the “last version” of Windows and Windows 11 requires a lot of hardware that older machines simply don’t have, most notably TPM. Microsoft creates thousands of tons of ewaste for no reason and the owners of this ewaste have to spend thousands or millions to replace machines that are perfectly fine.

      Yes, you can circumvent these restrictions, but not as a business.

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        1 year ago

        Do they even make business class computers without TPM chips anymore? To my knowledge it has been a standard feature for years.

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          a) it’s not only about business class machines b) There are still millions of computer that are perfectly capable of running Windows 11, except an artificial requirement called TPM. My 2014 Haswell machine (that I’m typing this comment on) is not “modern”, but can be used for 99% of “non-gaming” tasks just fine. But it can’t run Win 11. I personally run Linux anyway, but you can’t require that.