• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    https://lemmy.world/post/16146433

    Here’s actual context for anyone who wants it.

    The US president is expected to sign the order as early as Tuesday to seal the border with Mexico to migrants when numbers of asylum claimants rise above a daily threshold of 2,500.

    But sure, both sides the same, if this time we let fascism win it will totally make us into a left-wing paradise, etc etc etc.

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      1 month ago

      I’m voting Biden out of harm reduction because I don’t have the stones to walk away and be complicit in additional short term suffering/scapegoating/cruelty, but Biden just like Trump ultimately serves our owner class, and we need to collapse to have any hope of anything but living in this dystopic oligarchy.

      The neoliberals and the fascists alike work to maintain the power of our owner class. We’re only permitted a vote on how to address the social issue symptoms of our rigged economic system. I’d rather we not address those symptoms with scapegoating and fear, so Biden it is.

      Don’t mistake that vote for even beginning to solve anything though. This country is died under Reagan. Something new will eventually have to take its place for any gains to be made at this point, this corpse is too far captured, it has been reformed to maintain class occupation and maximum exploitation under both (D) and ® representatives, both legally bribed and fully owned when it comes to legislating and protecting the long con that is our market capitalist economic system.

      When capitalist induced, reckless growth/metastasis caused climate change is thinning our numbers due to hunger/thirst/deadly weather, maybe then, far too late, we will finally unite against our common enemy in their towers, golf clubs, and guard gated communities.

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        Don’t mistake that vote for even beginning to solve anything though. This country is died under Reagan. Something new will eventually have to take its place for any gains to be made at this point, this corpse is too far captured, it has been reformed to maintain class occupation and maximum exploitation under both (D) and ® representatives, both legally bribed and owned.

        I agree that voting is the minimum and will not solve any issues on its own, but we’ve been in worse spots regarding corruption, and still came out capable of reform. The fight isn’t over, and there’s more than a corpse left to fight over. The country hasn’t died under Reagan unless we’re willing to let it die.

        Campaign finance reform has been a rallying cry of the progressive wing of the Dem Party as soon as Citizens United happened. We, as a society, must relearn the value of strikes and disruptive protests to succeed, but I believe do have a future still.

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            Vote Biden so elections keep happening and make change at your local level. Voting in the interest of the people in local races where your vote really makes a difference. That’s the only peaceful way to improve I know of.

            Giving up hope is what the owner class wants.

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    Asylum seekers are the ones turning themselves in… and it is well known closing off asylum seekers and increasing deportations directly leads to more border crossings.

    What is the gameplan here with this order? Surely commit extensive resources to the bottlenecked bureacracy to help with processing and screening asylum seekers? Right?

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      Everyone crossing the border is trained to claim they are seeking asylum and they can’t go back to their home country.