BlowMe@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world · 6 months agoIs there any real physical proof that Jesus christ ever existed?message-squaremessage-square427fedilinkarrow-up1280arrow-down130
arrow-up1250arrow-down1message-squareIs there any real physical proof that Jesus christ ever existed?BlowMe@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world · 6 months agomessage-square427fedilink
minus-squareApepollo11@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up25arrow-down5·6 months agoThis. There is evidence that a preacher called Jesus existed, was crucified, and was well-regarded enough to start a following that persisted even after his death. There isn’t, however, strong historical evidence for any of the magical parts of it.
minus-squarejonne@infosec.publinkfedilinkarrow-up5·6 months agoI don’t think anyone is talking about the miracles when they refer to the historical Jesus.
minus-squarealmar_quigley@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up6arrow-down3·6 months agoEvery Christian takes an historical proof of Jesus as affirmation of the stories within the New Testament.
minus-squareApepollo11@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down3·6 months agoLet’s not do the ‘every Christian’ thing. It’s worth remembering the US has a very ‘unique’ type of Christian.
minus-squareuienia@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down2·6 months agoThere are zero contemporary primary sources for his existence.
minus-squareApepollo11@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·6 months agoPrimary sources? No, but there are independent secondary sources by people with no skin in the game. Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus (circa 93–94 CE). Annals by Tacitus (circa 116 CE) The earliest Christian writings are also more about the teachings of a disruptive Jewish preacher who was then crucified, than they are about magic.
minus-squareCaveman@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·6 months agoI remember that one miracle closely resembles CPR. He put his hands on a body and brought it back to life.
This. There is evidence that a preacher called Jesus existed, was crucified, and was well-regarded enough to start a following that persisted even after his death.
There isn’t, however, strong historical evidence for any of the magical parts of it.
I don’t think anyone is talking about the miracles when they refer to the historical Jesus.
Every Christian takes an historical proof of Jesus as affirmation of the stories within the New Testament.
Let’s not do the ‘every Christian’ thing. It’s worth remembering the US has a very ‘unique’ type of Christian.
There are zero contemporary primary sources for his existence.
Primary sources? No, but there are independent secondary sources by people with no skin in the game.
Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus (circa 93–94 CE).
Annals by Tacitus (circa 116 CE)
The earliest Christian writings are also more about the teachings of a disruptive Jewish preacher who was then crucified, than they are about magic.
I remember that one miracle closely resembles CPR. He put his hands on a body and brought it back to life.