I give the side-eye to people who call it “A New Hope” or “Episode IV.”
Wasn’t it always called “Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope?”
I never got to see it originally in the 70’s due to not being born yet, but I had seen it long before the special edition changes made in the '97 release. It was always something even my dad, who did see the original release, joked about. “Where is episodes 1 through 3?”
Nope. Not until many years later. Hell it was only ONE movie until it took over the world and people could not get enough of it, so everyone and their dog begged Lucas to make more.
Then ya boi’s all “oh it was always going to be a trilogy” yeah yeah okay George. “And it was always meant to have three prequels which would” George, shutup a minute - firstly there’s no such word as prequel, so - anyway.
Look, you mashed up Metropolis and Dune on a whim and got solid gold, why not leave it alone? Money. Right. Of course. Ah well.
I’d say it’s closer to A Princess of Mars than Dune and that Dune also owes a lot to A Princess of Mars.
But the Pellucidar books have that mix of different aliens that instantly grabbed people with Star Wars.
Nope. It was originally just Star Wars.
George Lucas (who lies all the time) claims he always planned for it to be Episode IV, but that introduction was only added when it was re-released
beforeafter The Empire Strikes Back came out… and when people initially saw it, they laughed.Edit: Got the chronology wrong
Maybe, maybe not - but I do remember the review of “Return of the Jedi” in my teenage magazine from 1983/84, where indeed they quoted Lucas as saying that there would be 9 movies in total. I think there was even mention of 3 prequels, but it’s been 40 years so… I might be wrong on that.
The best star wars was when George didn’t have total control, the first movie was saved in the editing room
He divorced that editor, so she couldn’t save his bacon later.
LOL! Lucas is petty, but that’s not WHY he divorced her.
She wanted to leave, but he made sure she got ziltch from Star Wars as a result.
Well I’ll be damned. TIL!
Although even if he did plan it to be “episode IV…” WHY START AT 4?! lol
Partly because it fit in with the whole idea of being a modern Flash Gordon serial, where you drop in partway through the story. I think it worked pretty well, personally.
Unfortunately, all of his references to old Republic serials (especially the wipes) go over the head of most audiences and even did in 1977. He’s a better movie nerd than he is a director in my opinion.
The wipes are glorious.
It’s one thing they preserved in the prequels (at least, the ones I watched) that I appreciated.
It’s just too bad people don’t understand that and other serial references, because I think Lucas wanted people to get it.
Part of the disorientation of the first cold open
Because he outlined the story from the events of Phantom Menace all the way to Return of the Jedi before the first movie even went into production.
Then he decided to tell the second part of the story first, THEN realized the script was too long for even that and split it into three movies.
He wasn’t sure he’d be able to commit the whole story to film, so he thought the introduction of Vader’s son and the destruction of the super weapon was the most important part and was able to stand up on its own.
When he realized he could actually finish the second act of the story, he surprised the viewing audience by calling Empire Strikes Back “Episode V” and retroactively calling Star Wars “Episode IV A New Hope”.
Yeah, I’m completely convinced that this story is all just Lucas retconning his career.
Based on how documented the prequel are I can see he pen a story outline but didn’t have it funny figured out. So when he did get to write the script, he actually figured out the actual stories, and I’m sure the story changed in his head over the 3 decades of working on the 6 movies.
Am I misremembering? I saw it when it came out and I thought the film had a title card that said Episode IV and everybody in the theater laughed at that. Sometimes different cuts of a movie get released in different areas.
1981: In April, Star Wars was re-released, with the addition of the subtitles “Episode IV” and “A New Hope” added to the opening crawl.[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases#Release_history
Not MY Star Wars:
As far as I’m concerned, that was a scene with a different Jabba, a big Irish guy in a fur coat. But it wasn’t in the movie, so it doesn’t matter.
It was better without Jabba, leaves the buildup for later.
Agreed, but then if you watch the movies in chronological order, which I think is what the expectation is at this point, absolutely none of the buildup in any of the original trilogy matters.
Best I’ve heard, if you’re watching the originals, is to watch them as 4,5,1,2,3,6 - the logic being that you don’t spoil the big revel and 1-3 are like a flashback to see how we got to “now”.
Then skip 7-9.
7 is fine, it’s just a rehashing of 1 for a new generation. It just needs to be followed up with a “and then Poochie died on his way home to his planet” single animation cell that explains what happened to Luke.
The end.
I choose to believe that Luke was a ghost the whole time. He was killed with the other Jedi when Kylo Ren attacked the Jedi Temple. Rey is just seeing a Force ghost, and ghost Luke and confused and angry which is why he’s acting so weird.
Probably doesn’t line up perfectly with what happens in TLJ, but I only saw it once when it was released so I can just remember Rey visiting Luke at a bad time when he was an angry ghost. Nothing really happens in TLJ anyway so there’s not much reason to watch it again.
Precisely. If Lucas didn’t bother to retain that actor/character for ROTJ, then it never happened.
I agree. That said, this fan did a ‘fix’ of the version with Jabba in a pretty ingenious way.
Ok, now that’s clever and reasonable. More evidence that Lucas has always needed outside voices and not just “yes men” to reign things in.
This was such a stupid, stupid scene. Like all the other “humor” scenes he started injecting.
Jabba’s way too small. And there’s no way in hell he’d let him just stomp on his tail like that. And…sigh.
I believe you are being what RPG circles call a “grognard”
And no Jabba in the Hangar either!
That’s the worst one because the dialogue is almost one to one the same as the scene prior.
Exactly. It’s a redundant scene. You either have the Jabba scene or have the Greedo scene, you can’t put both in there. And the Greedo scene (with Han shooting Greedo be fore he can get a shot off, naturally) is just a stronger scene.
The Jabba scene is something you put in the special features of a DVD, that would be fun. But not in the damn movie.
Han doesn’t shoot first. Han is the only one who shoots. In the original Greedo never fires a shot.
Based. I hate “Han shot first.” Greedo couldn’t get a shot off. I grew up on the “face” editions. The box VHS set.
And it works so much better that way. Lucas decided at some point to remove all moral ambiguity from all of his characters and it’s nuts.
I really want someone to interview Lucas and when he starts complaining tell him, “Grow up. They are Disney’s movies, not yours.”
(George said this to fans restoring the original Star Wars without his edits.)
What I love is when he starts claiming that this or that change was part of his original vision. Like claiming he always wanted Greedo to shoot first, which is not reflected in any draft of the script before shooting or the shooting script or the memory of the actor who played Greedo.
Dude lies so often he doesn’t even think people will check.
Would be funny if the last panel had George Lucas in the turbolift with a knife
