ACAB, especially that bastard relative of yours.

The capitalist state and it’s forces in the form of Police and Military primarily exist to protect the private property of the rich. All other functions are secondary.

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      I would suggest a citizens militia made up of local residents, mostly tasked with keeping their community orderly. Not armed with guns but with Batons and Tasers for diffusing situations and self defence.

      Serious deescalation and psychological training and only special units being allowed to bear arms which would only be used reactively.

      ofc this would only work in a society which has alleviated social inequalities

      In Germany we have something called “Ordnungsamt” (lit. meaning: Orderdepartment) imo smth like that should take over most tasks of current police and current police (in the way they are equipped) being reduced by a lot and used more rarely

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        So it’d still be their work? Wouldn’t you get the same form of power abuse even then?

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            And who would do it? Would the people be forced to do it or would those that want to become part of the militia be able to apply?

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      For starters you don’t actually need to enforce law a lot of the time, it’s sufficient to simply verbally reprimand or do a number of other non-law-enforcement things to correct bad behaviour.

      This is why german/nordic police are famous for how not terrible they are, they’re more likely to help you out rather than punish you.

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        German Police will still harass you (even physically) if a swearword aimed at them slips your mouth. And if you don’t look German or are a POC, mentally ill or are otherwise causing problems they are too incompetent to deal with, you are muuuuch more likely to get murdered by them.

        I think what you maybe are referring to is the “Ordnungsamt” which is kind of like a community task force

        German police will still put a boot on your neck if you dare engage in non-violent civil disobedience to protest the objective destruction of our environment for example

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          No, I really think you’ve seen too much unrealistic information. Or project American news onto Germany.

          Nobody in Germany is likely to get murdered by police. Check the statistics. The numbers are small enough (around 10/year) that you can look up every case in a year. I won’t deny that the police got some big problems. But coming up with completely wrong arguments isn’t helping anything.

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            I’ve been living in Germany my whole life fyi

            And I will stay with my argument that you are more likely to get murdered by the Police if you belong to one of the groups I mentioned, the statement was relative to the usual chances of murder by cop.

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              I’ve been living in Germany my whole life fyi

              Then you should get it right.

              the statement was relative to the usual chances of murder by cop.

              Great, so the chances increased from 0% to double that.