It’s not the age, it’s health issues. You choose your leader to govern your country, it seems like Biden can’t really dobthat anymore. Maybe if we weren’t hooked to live feeds we wouldn’t notice. After all, Roosevelt was very ill when he was reelected for the third time in 1944.
What health issues? I mean I know he’s old, but what exactly are you seeing that suggests he’s not capable of running his administration?
He’s been misspeaking and making gaffes since long before I voted for him in 2020, so that’s not new, nor a sign of things getting worse, it’s just getting more attention than it did before.
On the other hand, we’ve seen how he is as President, and he’s done a very good job. Obviously I’d prefer someone more progressive and who will stand up more to Israel, but his track record has been commendable and productive. I have no reason to expect any worse now.
I think this is a good point that was missed. You know what was really shocking when Biden was elected - we heard nothing about him. No stupid comments every day, no stupid decisions, no sharpie or nukes on hurricanes, or upside down bibles. Just President doing president things - we heard more ex president than president.
Was he perfect - no. But fuck was it a refreshing change.
Yeah it feels like people are eating up right wing lies tbh.
Like he’s definitely old, but there aren’t any signs of serious cognitive decline.
I’ve witnessed up close the ends all 4 of my grandparents and 2 great grandparents. You can absolutely tell when someone’s mind is going. It is not subtle.
My nan went in her early 90s and up until the last couple years she was completely with it.
There are plenty of people who will vote for the democratic nominee even if it’s Biden, but if his performance reduces voter turnout then we get Trump. You overestimate the political literacy of the average person. A lot of people are burnt out or apathetic. You should want somebody who will beat Trump. Why are people hellbent on sticking with the candidate that has a poor approval rating and is polling poorly?
You’re 100% focused on the wrong fucking thing. Stop talking about biden and the dnc. Keeping them in the spotlight is what will cause them to lose. Not this whole manufactured biden controversy. Keeping the ball in the DNCs court is the losing play. Your response to my post is the losing play. So, eat me
Its unbelievable that you think the problem is not Biden or the Democratic Party’s flaws, but talking about their flaws.
Republican voters are happy with their nominee. While the Democratic party has its die hard fans many people vote for them as damage control. Many people can not be bothered to vote because they don’t feel like either party represents them. Wheeling out somebody with a sub 40% approval rating and abysmal polling isn’t going to increase voter turnout.
My argument is not that Trump is a better option than Biden. My critique is that running Biden shows an increased likelihood of a Trump presidency when looking at polling data. Keeping Biden in is a losing play and no amount of covering your ears when polls are brought up will change that. So, eat me.
You a say it yourself. It didn’t matter that the better option is just someone who polls better than Joe you just expect better turn out. It stopped being a debate of moral principle long ago, we are months out it’s only strategy now.
Obviously, criticizing the DNC until election day is a losing strategy.
I’m not even saying you can’t be critical, just be critical of the real scum bag in all this. Donal Trump. Every once of malice not reserved for the GOP is misplaced.
Biden looks like a losing candidate. Wouldn’t both the moral and strategic answer be to run somebody who can beat Trump? Stopping the Christofacists from getting even more power seems both strategically and morally good.
Stopping that is important so why should the Democratic party not run the candidate most likely to win? If you think Joe Biden is the most likely to win Democratic candidate then I’d argue your misinformed or willfully ignorant.
Harris has already been performing better than Biden in polls vs Trump. Other alternatives have been performing similarly to Biden, but that’s without considering that they don’t all have the name recognition of being the current president and the likely nominee. If the party rallies behind any of those candidates those polls will reflect that change.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
If you remember to open your eyes when you read this please don’t fixate on the outliers and try to look at the trends.
We should have them both in a 1/4 mile bicycle race. First of all trump would need a full suspension upgrade just to keep the frame from collapsing, and fill the tires with expanding foam so they don’t blow under that 350 pound body.
It’s not the age, it’s health issues. You choose your leader to govern your country, it seems like Biden can’t really dobthat anymore. Maybe if we weren’t hooked to live feeds we wouldn’t notice. After all, Roosevelt was very ill when he was reelected for the third time in 1944.
What health issues? I mean I know he’s old, but what exactly are you seeing that suggests he’s not capable of running his administration?
He’s been misspeaking and making gaffes since long before I voted for him in 2020, so that’s not new, nor a sign of things getting worse, it’s just getting more attention than it did before.
On the other hand, we’ve seen how he is as President, and he’s done a very good job. Obviously I’d prefer someone more progressive and who will stand up more to Israel, but his track record has been commendable and productive. I have no reason to expect any worse now.
I think this is a good point that was missed. You know what was really shocking when Biden was elected - we heard nothing about him. No stupid comments every day, no stupid decisions, no sharpie or nukes on hurricanes, or upside down bibles. Just President doing president things - we heard more ex president than president.
Was he perfect - no. But fuck was it a refreshing change.
Yeah it feels like people are eating up right wing lies tbh.
Like he’s definitely old, but there aren’t any signs of serious cognitive decline.
I’ve witnessed up close the ends all 4 of my grandparents and 2 great grandparents. You can absolutely tell when someone’s mind is going. It is not subtle.
My nan went in her early 90s and up until the last couple years she was completely with it.
… trumps not going to govern so I don’t know what the fuck you’re on about.
Republican voters do not give a single fuck.
There are plenty of people who will vote for the democratic nominee even if it’s Biden, but if his performance reduces voter turnout then we get Trump. You overestimate the political literacy of the average person. A lot of people are burnt out or apathetic. You should want somebody who will beat Trump. Why are people hellbent on sticking with the candidate that has a poor approval rating and is polling poorly?
You’re 100% focused on the wrong fucking thing. Stop talking about biden and the dnc. Keeping them in the spotlight is what will cause them to lose. Not this whole manufactured biden controversy. Keeping the ball in the DNCs court is the losing play. Your response to my post is the losing play. So, eat me
Its unbelievable that you think the problem is not Biden or the Democratic Party’s flaws, but talking about their flaws.
Republican voters are happy with their nominee. While the Democratic party has its die hard fans many people vote for them as damage control. Many people can not be bothered to vote because they don’t feel like either party represents them. Wheeling out somebody with a sub 40% approval rating and abysmal polling isn’t going to increase voter turnout.
My argument is not that Trump is a better option than Biden. My critique is that running Biden shows an increased likelihood of a Trump presidency when looking at polling data. Keeping Biden in is a losing play and no amount of covering your ears when polls are brought up will change that. So, eat me.
You a say it yourself. It didn’t matter that the better option is just someone who polls better than Joe you just expect better turn out. It stopped being a debate of moral principle long ago, we are months out it’s only strategy now.
Obviously, criticizing the DNC until election day is a losing strategy.
I’m not even saying you can’t be critical, just be critical of the real scum bag in all this. Donal Trump. Every once of malice not reserved for the GOP is misplaced.
I simply don’t understand this reply.
Biden looks like a losing candidate. Wouldn’t both the moral and strategic answer be to run somebody who can beat Trump? Stopping the Christofacists from getting even more power seems both strategically and morally good.
Stopping that is important so why should the Democratic party not run the candidate most likely to win? If you think Joe Biden is the most likely to win Democratic candidate then I’d argue your misinformed or willfully ignorant.
Show me your evidence. You can’t. You know it doesn’t exist, and you’re a complete ass for propping up the MSMs bullshit narrative.
Harris has already been performing better than Biden in polls vs Trump. Other alternatives have been performing similarly to Biden, but that’s without considering that they don’t all have the name recognition of being the current president and the likely nominee. If the party rallies behind any of those candidates those polls will reflect that change. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
If you remember to open your eyes when you read this please don’t fixate on the outliers and try to look at the trends.
We should have them both in a 1/4 mile bicycle race. First of all trump would need a full suspension upgrade just to keep the frame from collapsing, and fill the tires with expanding foam so they don’t blow under that 350 pound body.
They would both die 50 feet in.