If there isn’t a large Socialist coalition to combat fascism, then fascism will rise before collapsing even harder. If there is a large Socialist coalition, and that coalition successfully combats the fascist powers, then some form of Socialism will likely replace it, and humanity can continue progressing instead of regressing.
If capitalism fails.
It will fail, inevitably. It’s unsustainable.
It’d been unsustainable for thousands of years, and yet here we are.
Capitalism is only a few hundred years old, what do you think we are talking about?
Yeah yeah yeah… Capitalism bad, m’kay ? I only see it becoming stronger and stronger with the growth of huge companies like Google Amazon, apple, etc. That are already beyond national level.
As megacorporations swell, and disparity rises, so too does exploitation. Disparity rising is not a good thing. This leads to instability and collapse.
It doesn’t fail. It succeeds horribly.
It also fails, though. It’s unsustainable, Capitalists sew the seeds of their own downfall. They just hope they enjoy the ride and pass the buck off to someone else.
Chaos and war, probably.
Fascism. It’s fascism.
Economic and social collapse dislocates a lot of people. It dislocates people who think they shouldn’t be dislocated, because they played by the rules. They go to church, they had a job, they’re patriotic to their best understanding of the word.
Then, in their minds, something must have changed. It might be the immigrants, or the Jews, or the gays, or weirdly drag queens for some reason this time around. Then someone comes along who validates them as victims and promises a return to their historical glory days.
The last paroxysm is the election or ascendency of a far right populist who elevates that narrative. They promise to restore national pride and return to traditional values, and to return the nation to its roots which had made it strong and put them on top.
It’s happened multiple times around the world, and there are a lot of books and articles on how and why it happens.
A square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.
Just say authoritarianism. Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history. Words have meaning and you don’t get to assign values to them because one helps your political motive better than the other.
Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history.
Are you putting the fascist regimes of Germany, Italy and Spain into one basket? Also the current regime in Russia?
After capitalism,
- All firms should be democratic worker coops. The legal system would recognize the inalienable right to workers’ control.
- Land and natural resources should be collectively owned with revenue from private use of this collective property going out as a UBI. The atmosphere is included and any carbon fees are included.
- Pools of collectivized capital democratically controlled by workers in member worker coops. Each worker coop leases all its capital from the pool
That would be nice. It’s probably going to be war though.
I remember reading a Guardian article in which it discussed the requirements of any market to either evolve or die based on the circumstances it finds itself in.
It highlighted that because Communism could not adapt quickly enough to its circumstances that it failed - the centrally governing authority were not able to efficiently or effectively govern the market at the time. Leading to multiple issues.
I would like to see the evolution of Capitalism. That we do not view everything only through an economic lens- there needs to be environmental, societal and political factors which must also be taken into account.
That and personal accountability and responsibility for business practices. For example you can pollute that waterway but we will take all your profits and you go to jail for 30years
Capitalism evolves into either Socialism or fascism, so we should push for Socialism.
Reading the comments here reminds me of that Slavoj Žižek/ Fredric Jameson quote:
It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.