• stembolts@programming.dev
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    22 days ago

    “No one should stand up for new rights. Don’t rock the boat bro.”

    Your mindset is the road to a dictatorship.

    What does the Mafia do? Show up, “Wow you got a lot of valuable things here Be a shame if someone broke them. Best listen to us.”

    The Mafia leverages potential of damage to existing value to extract cooperation.

    I see very little difference here between the Mafia and the plaintiff.

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      22 days ago

      You somehow overlooked the second paragraph in my comment. I explicitly said the opposite of that.

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        22 days ago

        I had nothing to say to that. I agree with it.

        One paragraph discusses action, the other discusses philosophy. I only took issue with your regressive philosophy. I’m open to correcting misunderstandings, elaborate if you feel I continue to miss something.

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      “Societies with rule of law are dictatorships. How leaders are selected and the existence of fundamental Constitutional rights is not a factor.”

      How you like them strawmen?

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        22 days ago

        It’s a quote of an opinion, so in general I ignore them. I’m usually more interested in distilling ideas constructed with some line of reasoning.

        But I guess we can look at this one. Find it’s essence. Tho it doesn’t seem very deep…

        “Societies with rule of law are dictatorships. How leaders are selected and the existence of fundamental Constitutional rights is not a factor.”

        So in short.

        Having laws at all is a dictatorship.

        Yeah, that is one of the opinions I’d ignore. It’s easy to have that opinion inside the walls of a lawed society.

        Luckily it is valid to respond to an opinion with an opinion, and mine is that I imagine everyone (except the strongest with the most resources) would abandon that perspective as soon as they lived in a world with no laws.