• stebo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Ukraine: 12,340 civilians killed in nearly 3 years

    Gaza: 44,786 civilians killed in just over a year

    That is 12 times as many. How can you they possibly conclude that Russia is conducting a genocide, but Israel isn’t?

    (These are confirmed kills, the actual numbers are of course a lot higher in both cases)

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      This is complete propaganda, fam. The Gaza death toll has exceeded 200,000 according to Palestinian hospitals… and that figure is months-old. Before they started bulldozing the West Bank.

      Hospitals in Palestine are very meticulous about counting their dead and keeping records. Being under genocidal occupation for decades where Israelis can just kidnap and kill you for fun will do that to a society.

      A certain strain of MAGA really doesn’t like it when you start pointing out basic reality contradicts their entire belief system, careful around these parts!

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        Yeah I know, I’m just showing that even with official numbers, it’s blatantly obvious what Israhell is doing, yet no world leaders are acting on it…

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        yeah sorry it was directed at the parent commenter’s friends. I probably should have made that clear, my bad

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        I believe that by “you” they mean other people, not actually the person they were responding to. That is to say, the commenter is agreeing with the previous one, not criticizing them.

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      How can you they possibly conclude that Russia is conducting a genocide, but Israel isn’t?

      Because they are very different conflicts and how each group has been fighting them.

      For example, It is well documented that Russia has been engaging in Russification of the areas of Ukraine they occupy. Russia also has a long, long history of engaging in the practice.

      https://www.state.gov/russias-filtration-operations-and-forced-relocations/

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification

      Quick edit:

      Also, Ukraine takes steps to shield their population from the fighting. While on the other hand every group that Israel have taken zero action to shield ‘their people’ from the fighting. While at the same time taking steps to actively endanger civilian lives so they can glorify and use their every death for sympathy.

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        It is well documented that Russia has been engaging in Russification of the areas of Ukraine they occupy.

        Do you mean to imply that Israel doesn’t do that to the areas they occupy?

        To be clear I’m not claiming that Russia is not conducting a genocide. Just that Israel is currently doing it on quite a larger scale. So if there’s a genocide in Ukraine then there’s definitely one in Gaza.