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    Also, the bigger problem is buried at the bottom of the article:

    As for water usage, data centers consumed 21.2 billion liters of water in 2014. That hit 66bn in 2023, with 84 percent of that going to hyperscale data centers. Hyperscalers alone are expected to consume between 60 and 124 billion liters in 2028.

    We are running out of fresh water as it is.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/parts-america-water-crisis/story?id=98484121

    We can potentially find new energy sources or find ways to make our current ones much more efficient. Finding new sources of fresh water is much harder. We can’t make the amount of water our bodies need and our crops need more efficient.

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      21.2 billion litres of water

      fresh water

      Are we sure it’s fresh? Are we excluding projects like data centers with seaside cooling loops?

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        Do you think if you exclude those it isn’t still a major fresh water wastage issue during a water crisis?

        Here’s where just Google’s data centers are. How many of do those do you think are cooled with sea water?

        Edit: Yes really. They have a DATA CENTER in LAS VEGAS.

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          They have a few, and some heavily armed security in some of them as well. I had a tour of one when a company I worked for was looking for a secondary DC. Bulletproof glass, assault rifles, body scanners, and a few other nutty things. Those gambling establishments have to store their data somewhere.

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              Depends on the data. Your family photos and home videos from the 90s you digitized doesn’t matter where it is. If it is financial data or a stock market exchange then speed and thus nearness play a big factor.

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    With AI deployments continuing to increase, US data center energy grew at an increasing rate, hitting 176TWh by 2023, representing 4.4 percent of total US electricity consumption

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      The cloud wasn’t the worst idea when storage was pricey. These days, I can get a 2 TB SSD for $100 and download a ton of movies and TVs and games and still take months to fill it up. A cursory web search tells me a 2 TB SSD can hold over 1000 1080p movies.

      And if you’re buying a bunch of really big games, you weren’t going to put them on the cloud to begin with even when cloud storage made a bit of sense.

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      Private cloud is better than public cloud for different goals.

      Here, though, DC costs can be swept under the rug.