• shrugs@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I really don’t understand why this isn’t the norm. Capitalism is a tool. You wouldn’t ask a hammer where to hit but it’s totally ok that capitalism is allowed to make its own rules.

      Without humans, there is no capitalism. Can we please start to prioritize people and ignore corporate crying. They always cry, it maximizes profit.

      Fuck em, use their potential to really help society to create real, sustainable improvements. If everyone follows the same rules, it’s not even unfair for them

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          11 hours ago

          Bullshit. Without capitalism we wouldn’t have any of the improvements we have today. It’s a tool, a system to increase wealth. It just is used wrong, because it is way to influential in areas it shouldn’t be able to set the rules.

          Think about it, what exactly is wealth? Wealth is good, its just the unfair distribution that’s the problem.

          Nothing even comes close to capitalism in creating wealth and advancement

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            9 hours ago

            If you want to have an honest discussion, don‘t start like that.

            As you say, capitalism is a tool to create wealth. But it is not a societal tool. It isn’t a system society introduced in order to increase its wealth. It kinda happened, and in that vain you can‘t say it is just being used the wrong way. It is what it is. Capital (which has accumulated in some hands for some time, for reasons) uses the labor of people who have no such capital in order to increase wealth. You could say that it needs greater control so there’s a little bit more in it for the workers, more than just the bare minimum to survive. But this isn‘t a feature of capitalism, rather a result of workers fighting for some control for a long, long time. The institutions, the state, democracy, primarily serve the interests of the ones who control the production of wealth, not the ones actually creating it. The contradictions property introduces have to be permanently dealt with by the legislative, the judiciary and the executive. Admittedly, the wealth created using this method was gigantic. And yeah, even the workers profited from it (for a long time only in the western world).

            But that wasn‘t the goal. The capitalists didn‘t forget this and are at a remarkable campaign to take as much as for themselves again as possible. As in the good old days.

            We really have to think for alternatives and don‘t tie our hopes to a system that has exploited us for the past 200 years. Otherwise we are just going in circles.