• Grapho@lemmy.mlOP
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    5 days ago

    Chinese imperialism

    lmao, libs co opting revolutionary language without understanding a single fucking thing about it will never not be funny to me

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      Yeah not a liberal and what would you call predatory loans to Africa and export systems of raw goods, or the annexation of Tibet, or the threatened annexation of Taiwan, or the skirmishes in the late 80s for the “South China Sea” which mainly cover reefs that have now been over fished, or even Russian, Tajikistan and Vietnamese land as recently as 2009?

      A word you think belonging to you doesn’t make it wrong to be used just because you don’t like it. It’s not even revolutionary just a Latin root word of ruling used for Napoleon using military to gain other counties support, and has been used in lots of ways by lots of people since.

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        A red lib or a blue lib is still a lib. Even Bloomberg doesn’t buy the debt trap idiocy lmao. Washington mouthpiece The Atlantic doesn’t either. You want predatory loans? Look at the IMF. China regularly does no-strings-attached loans and regularly forgives hundreds of millions in loans that were interest free in the first place. China has NEVER seized an asset from a debtor. Poor way to do predatory loans, they should ask the US for advice if that’s the endgame.

        Most debt in Africa is held by western banks and the IMF, who demand you strip your economy for parts like the mafia (who probably got the idea from them). In Sri Lanka, the most quoted example, more than 90 percent of debt is owed to Western countries.

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          Still not a liberal.

          And alright. I understand that other countries are more directly responsible for the economic woes of the world as that is the whole point of them and China is the manufacturer so their issues will be more worker treatment related than economic policy.

          You move on to whatever to protect your point of view. You are on a conquest to be self righteous rather than right.

          My point is don’t seek for other, seek for better. It’s not a golden paradise, just another reality that isn’t perfect, because it’s top busy being a reality.

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              Not that either.

              Why is that I must belong to either of those ideologies? Is it so you can have pre conceived notions a our who I must be in the other side?
              As I if can’t disagree on the minutia and still be in general in agreement?

              It never ends and it’s never so simple.

              • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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                Ok, you’re definitely a liberal, if you were anything else you’d just say it, rather than doing this coy bullshit.

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                  how could a Marxist ever get confused by China’s imperialist and state capitalist tendencies? You must be a lib.

                  lol

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                    Ok, you’re definitely a liberal, if you were anything else you’d just say it, rather than doing this coy bullshit.