It annoys me even though I’m still in the U.S.

Edit: For everyone saying CVs and resumes are different, that might be literally the case, but that is not how job applications are using them. I just went to this one:

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    As for dates, it’s possible it’s stored as a raw date and downstairs for display. If that’s the case it could be up to the browser to suggest a localization for form input and display. I can’t say for that site you are using but it is possible.

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    When you are writing the date, the only correct way is ISO8601 (YYYY-MM-DD). If you’re speaking to someone (verbal communication) then do whatever you want.

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      when making someone a cup of tea, the only correct way is ISO3103. if youre making it for yourself then do whatever you want.

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    It doesn’t “annoy” me.

    I like employers to be open and honest about their various incompetencies. Saves time.

    There’s a few other warning signs in that statement too - nice of them sift themselves out so quickly.

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        Where did you get this idea from? In British English 11th of December is more common. I’m open to the idea that American English does it differently and that’s fine but to assert that the entire English speaking world does it like that is incorrect and ignorant.

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        Nope. It’s the 12th of December . Just like the 4th of July, or having Christmas “on the 25th”

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          Disclaimer: am American.

          I say the 4th of July because it’s a holiday. July 3rd, 5th, etc are all month/day. I don’t know why just what “sounds right” and it’s what I was taught. It threw me for a loop working with people over seas when I saw 13-10-24. We quickly noticed the confusion and swapped to spelling months out

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        Maybe where you live, but no. Today is actually the 12th of december. Yanks like to say thats how it is but I have never, or rather rarely, heard them call their independence day July 4th. It’s always 4th of July. So, no. Its not the speech order.

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          Sure. But we also say “September 11th” when referring to the world trade center attacks.

          4th of July is the exception in American English.

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    The only correct format is from greatest to smallest: yyyy-mm-dd

    This is, in my mind, verifiable by noting the way that lists are ordered when using this format. They are sequential. This isn’t true for either of the other formats.

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    The date thing is infuriating because the American date format just shouldn’t exist

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      ISO is best. There’s no debate there. From a data science perspective, YYYY/MM/DD is the only reasonable choice.

      But most of the time you’re using dates, you’re only concerned with the month and day. That’s the very reason we don’t use ISO in our daily lives. If you started every mention of a date with the year, people would think you’re a crazy person, or a time traveler, or perhaps a recently-awakened coma patient. There’s just no need to begin with the year. Next Wednesday, 2024 December 18.

      If you exclude the year, then the choice is month/day or day/month. Between the two, month/day is far more useful for the same reasons ISO is best. If I need both the month and the day, then I want the month first. The only time I would want the day first is if the month doesn’t matter, and I can omit the month in that case. Giving me the day first and then the month forces me to wait for the month and then remember the day. It’s inefficient transfer of information. If you exclude the year, MM/DD is objectively, if only marginally, better than DD/MM.

      But then why would anyone use MM/DD/(YY)YY? Because we’re already using MM/DD.

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        I’ll see you on the 1st of the 1st.

        I see nothing wrong with that. The day number moves most frequently, so that should go first. The month moves second most frequently, so that should go second. Putting the month first makes it odd.

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        Ahem - there is a debate… it’s over / vs. -. As is proper - all true debates should be over minor formatting decisions (soft tabs over my fucking dead body).

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          / can’t be used in a filename on most common filesystems so that doesn’t enter the conversation the real question is if you include - as a delimiter at all.

          20241212 or 2024-12-12? They are fixed width fields so I skip the delimiter when I’m storing data* but tend to use the delimiter when writing for a general audience.

          * Y10k problem right here!

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            What programmer in their right mind uses / instead of -?

            I use the delimiter when writing out log files when I want hour or minute in the logfile name. SantaChimneyLog_20241225-0312.txt. Otherwise yeah it just gets left off.

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              ISO 8601 gets a bit weird with times.

              Using T to separate the date and time components looks a but strange but is unambiguous and widely compatible.

              Then the : delimiter between the time components is just impractical because, well again we put data in files and files live in filesystems. Any special characters that can’t be used in filenames on all major filesystems is a nonstarter.

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      It just depends on how you say it out loud.
      Here in the us, we would say today is December 11th, so we write it the same way, 12/11.
      Other parts of the world would say today is the 11th of December, so they write it that way, 11/12.

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      The dates are written to match how it’s said. In the US we say our dates as month day year, and before you say “But the 4th of July” my counterpoint is that the 4th of July takes place on July 4th. And Cinco de Mayo takes place on May 5th. And May the Fourth Be With You takes place on May 4th.

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      Its the ISO format everyone loves but from the time before digital computers needed to sort our dates, so we put the year at the end as it’s generally the least important if something isn’t digital

      I get not liking something cuz it’s different, but it amazes me how many people pretend it’s bad

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    I’m not from either place.

    I was under the impression that a CV and a resume are different things. A CV is a general compilation of all things you’ve done, and a resume is a curated list used for applying to jobs.

    I do know that they’re used interchangeably for the most part, but this is how I was explained the difference in practice.

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      They are the same thing.

      Lots of things list them both with a slash showing then to be the same thing.

      CV is more correct though.

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        They’re definitely not the same thing even though they’ve been used interchangeably more and more.

        A CV is a comprehensive overview of everything you’ve accomplished and can be fairly long in certain cases (I’ve seen CVs of specialized professionals or tenured professors that are close to 10 pages long).

        On the other hand, a resume is a concise list of your relevant skills and experiences that should be tailored to the position you are applying to and should almost never be longer than 2 pages.

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      They seem to be used interchangeably in the UK at the jobs I’m applying for, but what I have is definitely CV and not resume.

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          Some people say that a resume is a shorter CV. But even a CV should only include the things relevant to the task you’re using for.

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            Not traditionally. A CV should contain essentially everything whereas the resume is tailored to the specific position.

            CVs are much more common for academic positions but I’ve also seen them required for very specialized roles.

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    Without going into the rabbit hole of explaining:

    Curriculum Vitae: all your education, training, experience, skills. Can be multiple pages. Resume: the highlights + relevant for the application. Preferred on one page. Resume goes on top of the CV.

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    It’s the same shit as the kids saying “candy” instead of sweets in the UK, and getting british accents from Peppa Pig in the US.

    The date stuff is super stupid though :

    1. Fuck the US date scheme

    2. You don’t need fucking day numbers for anything on your CV, except your DOB.

    3. 7th Jan 2007 . You’re welcome, now it doesn’t really matter which order you put the DD/MM

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      7th Jan 2007 . You’re welcome, now it doesn’t really matter which order you put the DD/MM

      But do you write September as Sep, or Sept? I’ve heard that this is also a British/USA thing

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      “CV” is definitely not only used for academic positions in the UK. They almost always say CV instead of resume. That’s much less common than the date format.

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    I am from Europe. About the dates, for me it depends.
    In personal things, I generally use the American date format because I got used to it. And when going through a list of things month first is often nicer to look at.

    When giving something to someone else, I use date compatible with RFC3339 and ISO8601 standards (YYYY-MM-DD).
    Quick comparison between the two: https://ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

    But people have questioned me about both, since DD. MM. [YY]YY is basically the only format used in my country, but I don’t like it.