• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    12 days ago

    It’s not an assumption, the surplus generated to make someone a billionaire comes from the pockets of the customers, they don’t make it appear out of nowhere. Just because something looks like a deal it doesn’t mean that it is, if you’re always paying 5$ for an orange, 3$ feels like a deal because you’ve gotten used to paying 5$, the truth is it’s just not worth either price when you look at the actual cost to bring an orange from the tree to your house.

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      11 days ago

      Thats not how the net worth of a company works. You don’t have to make massive profits for people to value your company highly

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      11 days ago

      You are suggesting that $X in profit = $X of having “overcharged” the customer.

      This is completely ridiculous on its face. No private entity will or should ever go to all the effort and time and resources to start a new business if there will never be any profit. Obviously.

      And ironically, even if the government gets involved in providing X instead, without profit in mind, the bureaucracy is such that its ‘no profit’ price for X is invariably higher than a price a private entity can charge while profiting.

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        11 days ago

        No I’m saying that if their profit didn’t need to take a useless billionaire leech into consideration then prices could be lower.

        That last part is complete bullshit as well and you would know it if you knew anything about crown corporations.

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          11 days ago

          Have you ever considered people becoming billionaires of companies that haven’t made a single cent of profit? Spotify never made any profit for example and is still valued at just 96 bn USD

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            10 days ago

            Stock valuation has nothing to do with the current conversation but billionaires shouldn’t exist at all whole homeless people exist, it’s that simple.

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              I don’t think billionaires shouldn’t exist necessarily, I do think homeless people shouldn’t exist tho.

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                One doesn’t exist without the other, for someone to become a billionaire they need to take their money somewhere and that somewhere is in the pockets of people like you and me.

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          11 days ago

          if their profit didn’t need to take a useless billionaire leech into consideration then prices could be lower.

          You know the profit existed first, right?

          That last part is complete bullshit as well and you would know it if you knew anything about crown corporations.

          Yeah, they’re totally not huge money pits, I was wayyy off, lol.

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            Profits are revenues minus spendings, remove the leech and you need less revenues to make the same profit. That’s how companies manage to make their numbers look good by cutting staff, but they’ll never cut upper management (the guys you’re defending).

            Ontario privatize hydro, rates go up

            Hydro Quebec is a crown corporations and offers the best rates in North America

            Saskatchewan has the best telecom rates in Canada through its crown corporation

            Quebec and BC have the best car insurance rates because it’s managed by crown corporations

            The list goes on and on and on

            The goal of Canada Post is to offer an essential service to all Canadians at the same low cost, you say private corporations would be better? Well there’s no mail or packages being delivered to remote locations because they don’t want to provide the service. So it’s ok for you to let the private sector handle deliveries and let northern Canada end up being unable to receive mail? Hell, at the moment even in cities is hard to get stuff delivered and costs are much higher than they are with Canada Post, funny how it turns out it’s the opposite of what you said that happens when the private sector is left to handle shit.