Cherry pick much? You picked exceptions while ignoring the rest. At no point did I use absolutes like “all” founders were idiots or something. Yet you cherry pick and suggest that invalidates my points. Good grief.

I’m sorry for contesting your points with the facts of the matter and pointing out that the literal majority of the Founding Fathers don’t fit your claim.

Whatever. I’m done. I stand by my point: understand the founders in their time, understand their flaws, understand that we have polished their images while ignoring flaws and context to make them heroic. They were humans. That’s all.

Yes, they were flawed and human. Flawed and human advocates for Enlightenment-era ideals which are very far from the “White Male Landowning Aristocracy” idea that you accused their ideals of being founded on.