Anti-NATO protesters gathered again in Montreal on Saturday to demand Canada withdraw from the alliance, a day after a demonstration organized by different groups resulted in arrests, burned cars and shattered windows.
the purpose of the protest was to demonstrate against what he called NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza, … war crimes in Lebanon, Syria” and that “it’s enforcing illegal occupation of Palestinian territories.”
However, Allard rejected accusations of antisemitism. He said the protests were against the actions of the state of Israel and not Jewish people, adding that earlier this week the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Will you tell us what good NATO has done? I took time to reply to you.
No war since WW2 for 80 years. The full invasion of Ukraine happened, because putin was convinced NATO was too weak.
No war in western europe*
And that is mostly due to mutually assured destruction and decolonization and the destruction of European imperial ambitions. If these grand entangling alliances prevented war then WWI wouldn’t have happened. If nukes weren’t a thing then nato would probably be a factor contributing towards another world war rather then preventing it.
No war in countries that joined NATO. #2 goal of NATO is to be prepared to fight enemy together when attacked. #1 goal of NATO is to discourage war, because it’s you attack one NATO country, you start war with 32 countries.
No war since 80 years?!? Did I miss something or do you just choose to exclude Irak, Afghanistan, Syria, Bosnia? I guess that wars that do not directly affect the comfort of Westerners are not ‘real’ wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NATO_operations
NATO and the USA basically destroyed Afghanistan and left all of the women of in the hands of barbarians, but fuck them I guess. 20 years of interventions and the situation is worse for everyone except Talibans, thanks NATO!
And again, NATO isn’t doing shit in Ukraine.
You left off the “in Europe” part.
NATO assisted with the initial invasion. The war aims and rules of engagement were poorly thought out, as one would expect of G W Bush. The two choices that made sense were to kill off Al-Qaida and leave, or stay a bit longer and kill every single member of the Taliban, in both Afghanistan and in Pakistan (where they were formed by the Pakistani ISI, and from whom they continue to receive shelter and material support). The US did neither, NATO members faded away after the initial engagement, and the US attempted to stabilize the situation without addressing the root problem. If anyone had asked me, the first option would have been my choice: kill as many jihadis as possible, take out AQ leadership if we can, then go home.
And it was Donald Trump who surrendered the Afghan people, including the women, into the hands of the Taliban, releasing all the Taliban prisoners and getting nothing in return.
But I don’t believe that you’re really all that torn up about the fate of Afghan women. It just feeds your anti-NATO narrative.
Why would they be? Ukraine is not a NATO country, so the mutual-defense treaty has not been triggered. I suspect you’d be complaining even more if, in response to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, NATO waded in and we now found ourselves in a war the likes of which hasn’t been seen since WW2: possibly worse.
On the other hand, several NATO member countries are supplying and supporting Ukraine.
NATO is a defensive alliance, but it also standardizes weapons, equipment and command.
The only time when NATO article 5 was actually invoked was Afghanistan after 9/11. The other times it was mostly UN missions where individual countries volunteered to take part. NATO command was used, because it helped to work with multi national presence.
I’m asking the question again: What good exactly did NATO do in Afghanistan during 20 years? Bring democracy? Was it the plan all all along to leave a bunch of weapons and the control of the country to the Taliban? You’re aware that girls don’t have the right to go to school anymore, and often get forced into marriage at 12? Is that what NATO is for?
Are you people just defending NATO because Trump said bad things about it? I’m genuinely curious, since when “leftys” started to cheers for NATO? I’m guessing this is mostly a US thing since being left in this country is basically being center-right in the rest of world.
And just to clarify before being call a tankie, I think Putin is an evil manipulative piece of shit and I can’t wait for him to die (I hope he suffers a lot) so I can take a piss on his grave.