• YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    I’m sorry if you’re Kosher, I probably slipped your parent(s) meat and cheese (if they asked). Generally, they needed it. They usually live a lot longer with a more varied diet.

    People can eat whatever they like but I seriously doubt these people you slipped meat and cheese “needed” it. Especially cheese burgers. Vegans (plant-based diets in general) live longer, healthier lives compared to meat-eaters. They can still get sick and die since these diets don’t cure all diseases but generally they have better health outcomes.

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      They did. They wouldn’t have eaten otherwise. It was a dietary choice. When you get that old, you’ll die before you try new things. Nutrition is also very important. We we’re SUPPOSED to keep track of everyone’s nutritional needs, but honestly, no one does. I’m not trying to rep. Myself. That’s just the reality of the situation.

      I’ll give an example: (real world, this man died)

      You’re a man from Romania who survived the holocaust. You taught physics across Europe. You had children, but none of them talk to you because you’re too conservative. They put you in a home. Now I, a random, young dude with 0% understanding of what you went through, is trying to keep you alive. You just want your meat broth with wine, or perhaps a rye sandwich with cooked salami and sauerkruat. No matter what, those people couldn’t even show up to meals in time, and they’d be cut off. The doctors gave them vitamins. I would work overtime and bring him his favorite sandwich. He was supposed to die immediately. I gave him a few more months. Treat people with kindness, please; they live longer. I could give a list of their dietary needs. We could go all day.

      I don’t agree with old, conservative views, but I’ll keep your Grandpa alive while facilitating their diet/ religious views. I don’t like it, but that’s how it is, unless you want to change it.

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        See now you’re changing what you said. You said they needed a “varied” diet because it’s healthier that way and that’s why you gave them cheeseburgers (which the premise is wrong, this is obviously not healthy compared to a plant-based diet), now you are saying these people are starving to death either because the home isn’t feeding them or they are too stubborn to change their diet and would rather starve to death (which now I can kinda understand why you gave them cheeseburgers).

        I find it repulsive these people are being dumped in a home that does not care if their seniors eat their food. I’m an atheist and I find it unacceptable to force someone on a kosher diet they do not want. This home sounds awful. But as for the wine part, they will never serve that, alcohol is very bad for you. The home should be responsible for their residents’ nutritional needs. Did you happen to report this home? I hope it either has changed or was shut down.

        I have a parent residing permanently in a nursing home and their diet had to change, they spent their whole life eating unhealthy food which led to them becoming a type 2 diabetic for most of their adult life before any of my siblings or I were born. Their diet in the home is now a diabetic diet. They eat their new food and complain sometimes, I show up with some fruit as a treat but never anything unhealthy. They also had already started losing their sense of taste beforehand (food needed to be extra, extra salty for them to taste it). I would be pissed if you gave my parent something unhealthy because it would be contributing to killing them (this is assuming they are not starving and you have nothing else to feed them of course). I already have a problem with one sibling feeding my parent cupcakes, ice cream, candy, soda, etc. and then I get to hear from the nurses about how my parent’s sugar levels are way too high so I tell my sibling to stop killing my parent but they never stop because they “pity” them too much. This sibling is also type 2 diabetic btw and will never change their diet.

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          It’s a complex issue. We’re talking about human beings. I don’t know why you want to argue with me. All I know is that I kept people alive, and I’m happy.

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            I am not really arguing with you? Not everything is a personal attack. I am flabbergasted why you think my response was arguing with you when I was mostly trying to sympathize and trying to relate to your response. I just said I was confused by your first comment about the whole meat and cheese makes a varied diet which is healthier and such but now I understand why you were giving the people in your care a cheeseburger since they were starving and how horrible the home must have been to allow them to starve. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding? I thought I tried making it clear that people in homes like these should be able to eat whatever diet they wanted and is of course nutritionally appropriate (if they are diabetic they probably need a specific diet).

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            No, if you don’t want to hear from me then block me. I have just as much as a “right” as you do to comment.

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              15 hours ago

              Sure thing, bud. And I have just as much of a right to tell you to shut the fuck up. The guy was just sharing an experience. He wasn’t looking for a fucking debate.

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                And I was also sharing my experience and feelings, I didn’t look for a debate either. It’s not my fault the guy shut down, apparently I had inadvertently struck a nerve. I was appalled that the seniors at the home were starving without the guy’s intervention, like jfc. You are just being rude because you are looking for a fight. At least I am contributing to the conversation.

                Edit: nah that was a bad take, even if I didn’t mean to it is my fault and I apologize.