I have seen many comments saying that lemmy.world sucks, and sh.itjust.works is good. I have seen that lemmy.world apparently has a very poor reputation among other instances. Why? After a quick look, sh.itjust.works doesn’t look much different to me. Can anyone explain?

Edit: many good replies. the conclusion I’m drawing is that for my purposes it doesn’t really matter. I appreciate everyone who responded

  • Sundial@lemm.eeEnglish
    33·
    3 days ago

    It doesn’t, except for the ones who like to browse local. And the .world admins have quite a few blocked instances. They seem to be a bit too liberal in defederating to my tastes. I feel as if it runs against the concept of federation itself.

    • Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      3 days ago

      I feel as if it runs against the concept of federation itself.

      So, you believe that operating a website using Lemmy obligates you to host content from other sites that you don’t want to have a relationship with?

      Because the concept of ‘federation’ does not come with the expectation that you abandon editorial control over what you host. That’s an expectation you’re projecting on it.

      • Sundial@lemm.eeEnglish
        12·
        3 days ago

        No one is obligated to do anything. The admins run the site and they can moderate how they feel. As a user, I can join their site or another one if I choose to.

        My opinion of defederating is that it should only be used as a last resort. Taking a liberal approach to defederation means that a small amount of bad faith actors can completely shut down an instance and make it a pariah on the fediverse.

    • celeste@kbin.earth
      3·
      2 days ago

      I think that having a choice about what instance you join and whether it’s liberal or conserative about defederating is the beauty of federation. someone might want to be on an instance that’s quick on the trigger about banning for transphobia, racism, etc, because they’re going through some shit in their lives, and later want to experience the greater variety of an instance where banning takes more consideration.

      Like, I think you’re right about what you want for you, but people wanting different things and being able to get it is pretty great.

      • Sundial@lemm.eeEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        I agree, it’s a useful feature for certain people. I’m just not a big fan of site admins making the decision for you. It should only be used as a last resort IMO or to protect yourself against illegal content, CP for example. Normalizing defederation between instances can be abused by a small amount of bad faith actors. If you as a person don’t like a certain culture on an instance or community, just block it yourself.