i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

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    “Their votes alone didn’t swing the election” and “Their actions were the opposite of helpful in preventing genocide” can both be true.

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      Can it?

      If their votes didn’t swing the election, how were they harmful? Or whatever you mean by “the opposite of helpful”?

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        This is like saying “my vote doesn’t matter, it’s not like the candidate I would have voted for lost by a single vote”

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          Notice how you didn’t answer the question?

          We have the benefit of hindsight and they were correct. You just want to pretend that they weren’t.

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            When a better outcome is possible, but fails to happen, everyone who would have preferred it but did nothing to contribute to the effort is at fault. Had Kamala Harris won, a peaceful solution would not yet be achieved, but would still be possible. Now that Donald Trump has won, a peaceful solution is no longer possible. Is that what the people who stayed home or voted Green want?

            Edit: the other stuff I said was kind of mean, so I took it out.

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              Had Kamala Harris won, a peaceful solution would not yet be achieved, but would still be possible.

              I can’t really prove what would have happened… but that was never going to happen. She was going to keep signing off on weapons shipments and refused to call it genocide.

              She wouldn’t have supported it as much as Trump. But no way was she in favor of a peaceful solution; she was offering a slower genocide.

              We can both do better and expect better.

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      The people that was the opposite of helping prevent genocide were Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. That is the truth.

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        Well now you have Trump who will commit additional genocides within our domestic borders on top of all the complete eradication he will directly fund outside of our borders. you definitely showed them libs!

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            Because we live in the real world where we recognize that Trump or Harris were going to be the next president, and Harris’ ambiguity on Gaza and susceptibility to pressure from Democrat voters is, while not ideal, still better than Trump’s open lust for Muslim blood and complete indifference to what pro-palestinian voters want.

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            Because I am not so blinded by my own self-centered, egotistical view of moral purity as to throw away my vote on retaining civilian rights.