how do you organize with people who refuse to consider anything other than “maybe it won’t be that bad” or worse?
if you have a network of people who you trust and are actually willing to take some kind of action beyond “oh well i guess this is life now,” then i’m officially jealous
also there’s a difference between an imperfect coalition and a compromised coalition. you may not be religious, but the organizations closest to you might be religious. it’s far better to talk with open minded elca lutherans than close minded patriot front goons about what to do next. understand that there are many kinds of fascist and many kinds of anti-fascist. even the deepest red counties have people who who voted for harris because they have seen firsthand the dangers of christofascism. project 2025 is deeply unpopular and a disturbing number of people still don’t realize that voting for trump and against project 2025 was not and is not an available ballot option.
here’s the thing: this will never be over. not until the entire world over is free. every rise of authoritarianism has given us stories of heroes who resisted. you can hear their echos all throughout religious stories, songs, and secular media. they all tell us the same things: as long as we make art to pass down to the children, no authoritarian can ever rule forever, not even the ur-farscist, the political strongman who crops up every 80 years to lie to us about how he will free us.
right now, start telling the word truths about itself in places the right wing doesn’t know how to reach. writing by hand in a journal, creating poetry, singing songs, writing in the streets with chalk. these are all things you can do while you’re still looking for someone to organize with that help pass on the truth of the world to future people.
also, look for marginalized people in your community. they have been living with this terror all along. they know:
what to do
what you can do that will help
the kinds of things people new to this do that they think is help that actually isn’t
in other words: they are veterans of this 10k year long war. they have inherited stories you have never heard, and they still have hope even as things get worse for them.
i believe in you, and i believe in the power of everlasting peace, one where there’s room for everyone at the table and everyone gets a plate before anyone gets seconds
I know 2nd trump term is terrifying, I’m not denying that this will be worse than his first term, but the difference is that the US has the separation of powers between the states and the federal government. The check and balance within the federal government is gone, but we still have this final line of defence, that is federalism. States can resist tyranny of the federal government, if they have the willingness to do so. Remember, that states run elections, swing states do not all have a republican trifecta. And even in republican trifecta states, there is still the state judiciary, and we might still have some of those non-magas republicans like Raffensperger.
The election in 2026 will likely be less free and fair than 2024, but with a large enough democratic margin of victory, democrats can still take back the house, maybe senate.
Maybe I’m in denial, but I consider this view to be optimism. I thought people like Raffensperger would just cave in and do whatever trump wanted but they didn’t.
Don’t give up hope. We’ll soon see if federalism really works, if states would find the will to resist a tyrannical federal government.
The 2A solution is when there’s no hope of peace. You really don’t want them to remove the last option.
The 1st is so people can talk and work through differences. When he only thing left is to use the 2nd, nothing will put the Republic back together the same way.
If Congress, Supreme Court, or the Executive find a way to close the 2nd Amendment down. Then there’s no way for the people to fight against complete Tyranny when the time comes.
Home-grown insurgencies nearly always win. The US has never been able to win against them, just like Israel can’t win against Palestine. Insurgencies can only be negotiated with and always stop once freedom or rights are acknowledged.
Plus who knows, 😜, maybe I don’t have to work tomorrow!
I mean, if I was mangled into 30753 pieces mixed in with the neighbors dog and Misses Jane’s tits on someone’s windshield which is also in 1000 pieces and on fire tomorrow, then I don’t have to go work.
But all good 👍 if we can possibly get sadam putin in a bag and toss him into the ocean with honors. Or just in to a bag. Tomorrow or this coming week would be a good time for that.
At the start of the invasion Russia was claiming they finally had hypersonic nuclear missles. Meaning they could get nukes past defense systems. That is the reason the US was hesitant to let things escalate.
Since then we’ve found out that Russias hypersonic missles had some misfires and still didn’t have the ability to steer at hypersonic speeds if I remember right.
That plus the fact that Trump is months away from helping Russia changes the strategy.
wow. kudos for being the “now that it’s too late to have an impact, i’m going to do the thing i should have done many months ago” president
Long range missiles can have a lot of impact in a short time.
all the more reason this (among other things) should have happened many months ago
Yeah, but now is better than never.
God knows Trump wouldn’t authorize it.
you’re right. i’m just salty because we live in a fascist dictatorship now
we’re basically russia. could biden have even done anything? i don’t even know
As long as we draw breath it ain’t over.
Get out there and organize.
how do you organize with people who refuse to consider anything other than “maybe it won’t be that bad” or worse?
if you have a network of people who you trust and are actually willing to take some kind of action beyond “oh well i guess this is life now,” then i’m officially jealous
Well, a network of likeminded people won’t just find you. It’s something you’ve gotta seek out.
Look for local non-profits and political groups that advocate for the positions you care about and get involved.
also there’s a difference between an imperfect coalition and a compromised coalition. you may not be religious, but the organizations closest to you might be religious. it’s far better to talk with open minded elca lutherans than close minded patriot front goons about what to do next. understand that there are many kinds of fascist and many kinds of anti-fascist. even the deepest red counties have people who who voted for harris because they have seen firsthand the dangers of christofascism. project 2025 is deeply unpopular and a disturbing number of people still don’t realize that voting for trump and against project 2025 was not and is not an available ballot option.
here’s the thing: this will never be over. not until the entire world over is free. every rise of authoritarianism has given us stories of heroes who resisted. you can hear their echos all throughout religious stories, songs, and secular media. they all tell us the same things: as long as we make art to pass down to the children, no authoritarian can ever rule forever, not even the ur-farscist, the political strongman who crops up every 80 years to lie to us about how he will free us.
right now, start telling the word truths about itself in places the right wing doesn’t know how to reach. writing by hand in a journal, creating poetry, singing songs, writing in the streets with chalk. these are all things you can do while you’re still looking for someone to organize with that help pass on the truth of the world to future people.
also, look for marginalized people in your community. they have been living with this terror all along. they know:
in other words: they are veterans of this 10k year long war. they have inherited stories you have never heard, and they still have hope even as things get worse for them.
i believe in you, and i believe in the power of everlasting peace, one where there’s room for everyone at the table and everyone gets a plate before anyone gets seconds
Also people can’t afford to miss a day of work and their employers are just waiting to fire them in support of their false God.
employers were never anyone’s “friend,” but now that there are no protections for anyone, everyone would do well to go ahead and consider them enemy
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Have you seen what Russia does to people who organize? You get vanned lol
I’m half expecting that to become reality in America
Just organize with some 2nd Amendment on standby.
Not exactly russia.
I know 2nd trump term is terrifying, I’m not denying that this will be worse than his first term, but the difference is that the US has the separation of powers between the states and the federal government. The check and balance within the federal government is gone, but we still have this final line of defence, that is federalism. States can resist tyranny of the federal government, if they have the willingness to do so. Remember, that states run elections, swing states do not all have a republican trifecta. And even in republican trifecta states, there is still the state judiciary, and we might still have some of those non-magas republicans like Raffensperger.
The election in 2026 will likely be less free and fair than 2024, but with a large enough democratic margin of victory, democrats can still take back the house, maybe senate.
Maybe I’m in denial, but I consider this view to be optimism. I thought people like Raffensperger would just cave in and do whatever trump wanted but they didn’t.
Don’t give up hope. We’ll soon see if federalism really works, if states would find the will to resist a tyrannical federal government.
Time for those 2A proponents to step up… oh.
No, I think your message is spot on. We’ll weather Trump, if a bit worse for the wear. We survived a literal civil war, we’ll survive him.
The 2A solution is when there’s no hope of peace. You really don’t want them to remove the last option.
The 1st is so people can talk and work through differences. When he only thing left is to use the 2nd, nothing will put the Republic back together the same way.
If Congress, Supreme Court, or the Executive find a way to close the 2nd Amendment down. Then there’s no way for the people to fight against complete Tyranny when the time comes.
Home-grown insurgencies nearly always win. The US has never been able to win against them, just like Israel can’t win against Palestine. Insurgencies can only be negotiated with and always stop once freedom or rights are acknowledged.
Oh no, one missile went astray and hit Mar-a-Lago. OH NO WE"RE SO SORRY
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Plus who knows, 😜, maybe I don’t have to work tomorrow!
I mean, if I was mangled into 30753 pieces mixed in with the neighbors dog and Misses Jane’s tits on someone’s windshield which is also in 1000 pieces and on fire tomorrow, then I don’t have to go work.
But all good 👍 if we can possibly get sadam putin in a bag and toss him into the ocean with honors. Or just in to a bag. Tomorrow or this coming week would be a good time for that.
What the fuck does this mean
At the start of the invasion Russia was claiming they finally had hypersonic nuclear missles. Meaning they could get nukes past defense systems. That is the reason the US was hesitant to let things escalate.
Since then we’ve found out that Russias hypersonic missles had some misfires and still didn’t have the ability to steer at hypersonic speeds if I remember right.
That plus the fact that Trump is months away from helping Russia changes the strategy.
Sounds like your average president
Lame-duck presidency in a nutshell.