• freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world
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      Except CA isn’t fairly represented in the House either. CA would need 68 representatives just to have the same representation as Wyoming.

      And say, shouldn’t the states that have a huge economy and bring in more tax dollars have more of a say than the red welfare states that suck up those tax dollars? Just sayin…

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        I disagree with the economy part. Fuck that. Your value isn’t described by how much wealth you generate.

        Republicans are (or were) hypocritical with their talk of fiscal responsibility while representing states that take in more money than they give back. This should be pointed out if they ever return to that argument. This isn’t to say poor people from republican states (or anywhere else) are less valuable though. It’s only hypocrisy that’s wrong, not trying to help lower income people that’s wrong.

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        And say, shouldn’t the states that have a huge economy and bring in more tax dollars have more of a say than the red welfare states that suck up those tax dollars?

        By that logic, a rich person should have more say in government?

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        shouldn’t the states that have a huge economy and bring in more tax dollars have more of a say

        Wtf, dude? Can you make something even more american-sounding?

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        CA would need 68 representatives just to have the same representation as Wyoming.

        Every state is guaranteed one representative, and then otherwise by population. Wyoming has one representative.

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          Exactly and then based on that number what we SHOULD do is do proportionality based on that in the most even way possible. But then the issue is states like delaware with almost double Wyoming population would still be unequal since they would still get 1 representative but would be more fair for California. Congress shouldn’t have a capped number. Every population of Wyoming size should have one representative in Congress this would give California 68

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            How about selecting reps independently from home state in a national election. Every million people get to send someone from anywhere. The dakotas can share one

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            The number should have been capped smaller. As it is, there are too many representatives; it’s already impossibly hard to get anything through congress. If you want to make gridlock even worse, then sure, add more people.

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              No more representation the better. It is easier to vote someone out and be more engaged when there is a representative for every 250k to 500k people. I don’t agree one person should be able to gridlock congress though. Key thing is there is laws in the books to unlock more there would have to be a changing of a law to reduce then less people for billionaires to buy off

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                It’s not that any one person can gridlock Congress, but that the more people you have, the more difficult it is to get enough of them pointing in the same direction to get anything accomplished.

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                  More people you have in Congress the higher chance their view will reflect America causing less grid lock on issues 60-70% believe in. It’s not like they wouldn’t be in the same party. Also you are more likely to replace bad actors since you will be more engaged and any lone wolf wouldn’t matter as much

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      The house were any given rep represents between 550k and close to a million constituents?

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      There’s no need for a bicameral system. It was a system designed to capitulate to wealthy interests and nothing more.

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      Except the House of Representatives had its numbers capped in the early 1900s, breaking its proportionality. Wyoming has 1 rep with a population 584k. California had 52 reps with a population of 38.97M. This makes the ration approximately 1 rep per 750k people. Working people count as nearly 1.5 Californians, for representation in the House, and similarly in the Electoral college.