All I’m hearing is you want a slow painful existence. Just don’t play the game, join a revolutionary movement and appeal to the working class, its a far more fun game 😉
Socialism fixes the issue of power vacuum silly. I think revolution will lead to a better time than now. Global communism is the only tenable conclusion unless we wish to regress or are you one of those that believes capitalism is the end of history?
Tell me which revolution that ended in a democractic socialist society and one that didnt involve millions of people suffering for years?
Look at the nordic countries. They didnt have revolution to acheive their socialism. It was democraticly elected. Is it perfect? Of course not, but its more than most countries have achieved.
Not a Nordic country but one with a socialist history and with that history I’ve watched as the NHS has been slowly deconstructed year after year, the UK had a revolutionary social housing project which is now gone sold of to private interests and even labour a party for the working class and one that still calls itself socialist looks more like the Tory’s each day being filled to the brim with landlords and sir’s, knights. This is why I follow the Marxist philosophy. And attending an interesting meeting a few months ago I can say the Nordic countries aren’t fairing much better. Reformism only works at the start and all reforms are liable for conversion.
We’re currently trailing wheelchair rentals in NHS hospitals, essentially you go in with a broken leg, waiting hours for a medical examination and the nurse rocks up and asks you to cough up two pound an hour. Of course that two pound won’t go back to the NHS instead it goes to a private healthcare contractor.
I get it. Complacency allows the top to slowly chip away from the bottom. Im not saying to stand and take it. Make your voice heard.
But what im saying you cant expect not participating to improve your situation. You have to make small wins where you can. Without the support of large social movements, change will be slow and tedious and it may seem nothing changes for the better your entire life. But if you give up and stop putting up any resistance, you can be sure the top will topple the tower and you will have nothing left and will have to rebuild. And the chances of rebuilding to something grander is much more unlikely because you already surrender your only advantage.
its not even complacency, its a system built into to capitalist and class based politics, this is why i will take the revolutionary approach and seek to dismantle the state. France had an anarchist revolution where the anarchist completed they’re task and put down the weapons and tools and left a power vacuum, Marx supported the revolution but while witnessing the aftermath that erupted afterwards Marx seeked solutions, this is why revolutionary socialists seek the complete removal of the old state.
Marx himself did say the working class should vote in they’re interest, and i support this notion. now if the working class feel voting goes against they’re interest who am i to say they are wrong, i wont be getting libbed up over it. instead i use these opportunities to point people towards Marxism.
All I’m hearing is you want a slow painful existence. Just don’t play the game, join a revolutionary movement and appeal to the working class, its a far more fun game 😉
You think revolution is a great time? and chances of it fixing anything is very low. All it causes is turmoil and a power vacuum.
Socialism fixes the issue of power vacuum silly. I think revolution will lead to a better time than now. Global communism is the only tenable conclusion unless we wish to regress or are you one of those that believes capitalism is the end of history?
Tell me which revolution that ended in a democractic socialist society and one that didnt involve millions of people suffering for years?
Look at the nordic countries. They didnt have revolution to acheive their socialism. It was democraticly elected. Is it perfect? Of course not, but its more than most countries have achieved.
Not a Nordic country but one with a socialist history and with that history I’ve watched as the NHS has been slowly deconstructed year after year, the UK had a revolutionary social housing project which is now gone sold of to private interests and even labour a party for the working class and one that still calls itself socialist looks more like the Tory’s each day being filled to the brim with landlords and sir’s, knights. This is why I follow the Marxist philosophy. And attending an interesting meeting a few months ago I can say the Nordic countries aren’t fairing much better. Reformism only works at the start and all reforms are liable for conversion.
We’re currently trailing wheelchair rentals in NHS hospitals, essentially you go in with a broken leg, waiting hours for a medical examination and the nurse rocks up and asks you to cough up two pound an hour. Of course that two pound won’t go back to the NHS instead it goes to a private healthcare contractor.
I get it. Complacency allows the top to slowly chip away from the bottom. Im not saying to stand and take it. Make your voice heard.
But what im saying you cant expect not participating to improve your situation. You have to make small wins where you can. Without the support of large social movements, change will be slow and tedious and it may seem nothing changes for the better your entire life. But if you give up and stop putting up any resistance, you can be sure the top will topple the tower and you will have nothing left and will have to rebuild. And the chances of rebuilding to something grander is much more unlikely because you already surrender your only advantage.
its not even complacency, its a system built into to capitalist and class based politics, this is why i will take the revolutionary approach and seek to dismantle the state. France had an anarchist revolution where the anarchist completed they’re task and put down the weapons and tools and left a power vacuum, Marx supported the revolution but while witnessing the aftermath that erupted afterwards Marx seeked solutions, this is why revolutionary socialists seek the complete removal of the old state.
Marx himself did say the working class should vote in they’re interest, and i support this notion. now if the working class feel voting goes against they’re interest who am i to say they are wrong, i wont be getting libbed up over it. instead i use these opportunities to point people towards Marxism.