That’s a very strange video. The apostles were religious fanatics willing to throw down their lives for their faith before their savior was executed. https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/blog/how-new-testament-was-created/ The official accounts were written down 20+ years after the events portrayed. That’s ample time for someone to forget details and fabricate events. The life expectancy at that time was something like 35 years so most of the people who could object to discrepancies were dead anyway.
20 years isn’t long for ancient writings. A lot of history we have from that time is written hundreds of years after the fact, while this was merely decades. And it’s pretty consistent. For legends to form typically, generations had to pass, yet the earliest records show Christians always believing that Jesus rose from the dead, leaving little room for speculation or evolution. Contrast this to Marian dogmas where things get added on like the perpetual virginity, her being sinless, assumption of Mary, etc, which are small details developing over centuries. Or St Patrick and the snakes. While the Gospel accounts just pop up at around the same time close to Jesus’s life on earth.
Secondly - that 35 year number is flawed. Averages are calculated by adding up the lifespans and dividing the total number by amount of statistics. People weren’t dying at 35. Instead, there was a high infant mortality rate. Caesar was assassinated at 55 years old, Tacitus died at 64. Gordian I lived to be 79, Celsus to 75.
Generally I’m with you, I truly dislike seeing downvote trains. But here I get it. This was a misguided attempt at proselytizing, trying to pass off faith in place of understanding.
Because these types usually think their religion is objectively true and view non believers as less than they are, here’s this person shitting on Islam for example: https://lemm.ee/post/46393021/15935358
Sadly it’s the minority of religious people that seem to be able to respect others and not use their religion as a tool of discrimination.
Genetic fallacy. I do not have the same faith as my parents. Also, the same can be said about Atheism: you’re only atheist because you live in a secular society. If you’re in Saudi Arabia, then you won’t be an Atheist, you’ll be a Muslim. So how can Atheism be true?
There are a load of problems with Islam and the Qur’an, but I’ll keep it concise to how the Qur’an disproves itself. The Qur’an makes these points:
The Gospel is the word of allah: 3:3-4
No one can change allah’s words: 18:27
Strongly implies that the Christians had the Gospel when the Qur’an was written: 7:157
Christians should judge by the Gospel: 5:47
The Qur’an also denies the death of Jesus and His divinity, which the Bible claims. So it’s in obvious contradiction. So judging by the Gospel, Islam is false. And the Gospel cannot be corrupted as the Qur’an recommends the Gospel and claims allah’s words cannot be corrupted.
Paul also gives us this warning:
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
Considering the Qur’an apparently was revealed to Mohammed by an “angel”… Yeah…
Jesus fills the space perfectly ❤️🔥✝️❤️
They got a point, people often fill that hole with religion. Though i personally think it’s better to fill it with knowledge instead.
The knowledge of how God became man and died for us
Knowledge of how that story came to be for once.
And tell me this: How did it come to be?
some bronze age mental patients got in a circle and started writing
So this literally happened?
That’s a very strange video. The apostles were religious fanatics willing to throw down their lives for their faith before their savior was executed. https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/blog/how-new-testament-was-created/ The official accounts were written down 20+ years after the events portrayed. That’s ample time for someone to forget details and fabricate events. The life expectancy at that time was something like 35 years so most of the people who could object to discrepancies were dead anyway.
20 years isn’t long for ancient writings. A lot of history we have from that time is written hundreds of years after the fact, while this was merely decades. And it’s pretty consistent. For legends to form typically, generations had to pass, yet the earliest records show Christians always believing that Jesus rose from the dead, leaving little room for speculation or evolution. Contrast this to Marian dogmas where things get added on like the perpetual virginity, her being sinless, assumption of Mary, etc, which are small details developing over centuries. Or St Patrick and the snakes. While the Gospel accounts just pop up at around the same time close to Jesus’s life on earth.
Secondly - that 35 year number is flawed. Averages are calculated by adding up the lifespans and dividing the total number by amount of statistics. People weren’t dying at 35. Instead, there was a high infant mortality rate. Caesar was assassinated at 55 years old, Tacitus died at 64. Gordian I lived to be 79, Celsus to 75.
That’s faith, by definition distinct from knowledge.
You have faith in your car based on the knowledge that it’ll get you to your destination
That’s a linguistic bait-and-switch. Your example has nothing to do with religious faith as a basis for conviction.
I am convicted in my faith by the evidence
You’re not convincing anyone by misusing words.
Here, let me demonstrate: I have hard evidence that God doesn’t exist. My evidence is faith.
My evidence isn’t faith. My faith is based in historical fact.
Is this a joke?
No, Jesus has a massive cock
Jesus’ holy pole is perfect to fill your lonely hole
No. Jesus loves you.
Allah is real, I would stake my life on itVishnu is real, I would stake my life on itJesus is real, I would stake my life on itOdin is real, I would stake my life on itYahweh is real, I would stake my life on itWahguru is real, I would stake my life on itZeus is real, I would stake my life on itAmenterasu is real, I would stake my life on it…
Uh, ok.
Thought terminating memes… That’s a new one.
Does he also love all those babies with bone cancer? Because it sure doesn’t look like it.
He offers them eternal life and an end to suffering.
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Jesus has a chode.
Why is this downvoted ? Comment OP stated their belief in a non aggressive/judging manner.
Behavior inherited from Reddit
Generally I’m with you, I truly dislike seeing downvote trains. But here I get it. This was a misguided attempt at proselytizing, trying to pass off faith in place of understanding.
Don’t get me wrong, I downvoted them too lol. It’s just the downvote train + tactless replies reek of Reddit.
Because these types usually think their religion is objectively true and view non believers as less than they are, here’s this person shitting on Islam for example: https://lemm.ee/post/46393021/15935358
Sadly it’s the minority of religious people that seem to be able to respect others and not use their religion as a tool of discrimination.
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Matthew 10:22a
First of all: I want to differentiate between Jesus amd God. Don’t blame Jesus for everything.
Secondly, Jesus did not fill the space. Science did for me much better.
You may live your religion and like it. But I don’t like it when you push your beliefs onto others.
Jesus is God
The only reason you are a Christian is because your parents are, not because it is Truth.
Genetic fallacy. I do not have the same faith as my parents. Also, the same can be said about Atheism: you’re only atheist because you live in a secular society. If you’re in Saudi Arabia, then you won’t be an Atheist, you’ll be a Muslim. So how can Atheism be true?
I’m an atheist because I went to a Catholic school and have seen enough to know sky fairies aren’t real and it’s a pretty good scam to make money.
That’s because the Roman Church is about money and tradition. They fail to catechise.
I’d say most outspoken atheists come from religious families - same as ex-smokers are more vocal/aggressive about smoking than those who never did.
What about Allah?
There are a load of problems with Islam and the Qur’an, but I’ll keep it concise to how the Qur’an disproves itself. The Qur’an makes these points: The Gospel is the word of allah: 3:3-4 No one can change allah’s words: 18:27 Strongly implies that the Christians had the Gospel when the Qur’an was written: 7:157 Christians should judge by the Gospel: 5:47
The Qur’an also denies the death of Jesus and His divinity, which the Bible claims. So it’s in obvious contradiction. So judging by the Gospel, Islam is false. And the Gospel cannot be corrupted as the Qur’an recommends the Gospel and claims allah’s words cannot be corrupted.
Paul also gives us this warning: Galatians 1:8
Considering the Qur’an apparently was revealed to Mohammed by an “angel”… Yeah…
What about the many contractions in the gospels? For example:
https://theblogofdimi.com/striking-contradictions-bible-evangelists/
Wouldn’t it be better to just accept that your faith works for you, and other people’s faith (or lack of faith) works for them?
Nonono, god is jesus.
Jesus was bread and wine