Does anyone has a logical explanation of why Elon is supporting Trump? Why is he going to this length, alienate many of his supporters by supporting an political party. What’s is the end goal, since nothing makes sense right now.

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    In an interview recently he openly speculated about how long he’d be in prison if Kamala wins. It seems like he has a strong savior complex, and thinks he’s the only one that can save humanity by establishing colonies on Mars. He phrases it as preserving “the light of consciousness.” Can’t reasonably do that from prison. With that perspective, for him, practically all means justify that end.

    At more personal level, after one of his kids transitioned he publicly stated it was like that kid had “died.” In his own words, he swore to kill the “woke mind virus.”

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    “Recently” it came out that Elon Musk is a sexual predator. He exposed himself and tried to pay for sex by buying an employee a horse. Then his company paid 250,000 to keep the woman quiet.

    Elon Musk has a transgender child and he didn’t like it.

    There’s multiple reasons for him to become a conservative backer. Being known as a sexual predator is a big one. That’s a huge flaw in more progressive corners, but something to rally behind as a nazi.

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    Why is Elon Musk acting like he’s a nazi?

    Occam’s razor says, it’s because he’s a nazi.

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    Drugs.

    His massive rightward swing seemed to correspond with when his drug use was reported in the media.

    I think his drug use makes him feel like he can’t be wrong and reinforced his conspiracy laden mindset… And that pushes him into fact-free conservative-Central.

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    Money.

    Democrats are pressured by their base (see overwhelming majority of Americans) who wanna see the rich be taxed more and pay a fair share as well as delve into the very clear financial corruption in our government.

    Musk, Trump, Bezos, and the other rich fucks like Peter Thiel or Miriam Adelson actively lose if this sort of policy is passed. Trump is literally the rich person candidate

    It’s money always is.

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      It’s not money, that’s way too charitable.

      It’s because he’s a white supremacist. He wants fascism.

      Pretty straight forward.

    • I made a little table showing the highest marginal tax rate from 1913 to 2022 coded in blue for Democrat presidents and red for Republican:

      source1

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      • The first Democrat run saw a stunning rise of 66% in the highest marginal tax rate due to the insane expense of WWI.

      • The first Republican run saw a drop of 48% as the nation moved away from the war economy and into the post-war economy.

      • The second Democrat run saw a sharp rise of 38% at the beginning and a further rise of 28% by the end of their run because of the Great Depression and WWII in that order.

      • The second Republican run kept the ultra-high (91%!) highest marginal tax rate during the post-war boom with no change.

      • The third Democrat run saw the rate fall by 21% over its span.

      • The third Republican run kept the rate as-is over its span.

      • The fourth Democrat run (single-term) kept the rate as-is over its span.

      • The fourth Republican run dropped the rate by 39%

      • The fifth Democrat run saw an increase of almost 9% over its span.

      • The fifth Republican run saw a drop of almost 5% over its span.

      • The sixth Democrat run saw an increase of almost 5% over its span.

      • The sixth Republican run saw a drop of almost 3% over its span.

      • The final Democrat run (and the last data I have) saw no change.

      If we factor out the war years (up to the end of the second Democrat run) we don’t see a huge pattern of differences in tax rates, given that those are the highest marginal tax rates and people in that bracket tend to have many ways to evade taxes. (Apartheid Manchild recently complain/bragged that he paid an amount of taxes that turned out to be 3-4% of his income where the vast majority of people pay well over 11% of their incomes, for example.)

      So I doubt it’s money. It’s something else.

      Other interesting notes that pop out at me:

      • the Great Depression happened in 1929 under Republicans (~3.5 years)
      • the recession of 1937 was under Democrats (~1 year)
      • the recession of 1949 was under Democrats (~1 year)
      • the recession of 1953 was under Republicans (~¾ years)
      • the recession of 1958 was under Republicans (~¾ years)
      • the recession of 1960 was under Democrats (~¾ years)
      • the recession of 1969 was under Republicans (~1 year)
      • the recession of 1973 was under Republicans (~1¼ years)
      • the recession of 1980 was under Republicans (~½ years)
      • the recession of 1981 was under Republicans (~1¼ years)
      • the recession of 1990 was under Republicans (~¾ years)
      • the recession of 2001 was under Republicans (~¾ years)
      • the Great Recession happened in 2007 under Republicans (extending into Democrats) (~1.5 years)

      Here I see a distinct pattern that should alarm anybody running a business since lost sales account far more for lost wealth than alterations in the highest marginal tax rate.

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    The world’s richest man is supporting the guy that’s gonna appoint him to some “efficiency” position that will let him squash any investigations into his businesses and will cut the amount of taxes he owes.

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    Not money. He doesn’t GAF about that compared to his lust for power and also, very importantly, not going to prison for crimes already committed.

  • Because Vivian Jenna Wilson transitioned.

    It really is that simple.

    Before that event Apartheid Manchild was a dick, but mostly of the poorly-socialized technonerd variety. Still a dick, but not perceived by most as being a threatening dick.

    After that event, where he coined (to my knowledge) the phrase “the woke mind virus”, he jumped deep into the MAGA swill.

    Before that event he was kinda/sorta hailed as a “real world Tony Stark” but never really particularly accepted. People liked his products (well, let’s be honest: product) and otherwise didn’t give much of a shit about him.

    After he went Full Metal MAGAt he became the object of worship and adoration of fellow MAGAts on Twitter (before he bought it, even), getting the uncritical acceptance he’d always craved and never really got.

    And it turns out he wants to feel like he “belongs” more than he wants to sell shit.

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    Maybe this is overly generous, but I kind of feel like Elon genuinely believes he’s a special genius who can “save” the world and usher in a nominally benevolent techno-oligarchy with him at the helm. So he supports trump because a) trump will let him do whatever he wants without regulation or enforcement, and b) Harris won’t, and she might take a look at his accounting and government contracts.

    Also maybe because Ketamine

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      This saviour complex is a big part of it. That said, all these big “self made” billionares suffer from it. That’s why they all refuse to pay taxes but will instead make a charity foundation so they can choose which public interest is best served by “their” money. Like another poster said, Elon’s public interest is apartheid, which aligns with Trump.

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        I think you’re being way too charitable. Billionaires have zero interest in actually making the world a better place. The charitable foundations stuff is a way for them to avoid taxes, exert control over public policy, and to gain positive PR.

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      This really ticked all the boxes. Except for the box where Putin has asked him how he feels about windows.

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    He basically lost his marbles after his daughter disowned him and Biden didn’t invite him to some electric car event a few months after he was elected. I think his drug use also plays a big part. It’s just the typical trajectory of someone who obtained a lot of power and then just shuts out all criticism and just thinks he’s the smartest and knows everything best. History is full of examples and it never ends well.

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    Best way to enable your grifts while also evading jail time for being a con artist and pedophile.

    Shitbirds of a feather, randy.

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    I suspect Elon is in deep shit. Everything he has been doing with Tesla and Twitter has been blatant stock manipulation. The latest stunt is self driving taxis. I suspect he knows that the SEC have a big case on him that they will pursue if Harris wins.

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    He’s eyeing the position in government, something the GOP was calling along the lines of Head of Technological Efficiency or whatever.

    Once he’s there, he can set some rules for his own companies and companies favourable to him, almost however he likes. He’d have more power if he starts a slapfight against foreign courts like he did in Brazil and lost last time.

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      It’s Department of Government Efficiency and I’m pretty sure he himself coined it because the acronym is DOGE