• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    It doesn’t matter how many times you repeat it, you’ll still be as wrong as saying that I’m draining a pool by standing next to it with an empty hose. It’s simply not how language works and you can twist words around and tell me otherwise a thousand times, and it just means you’ll be dead wrong a thousand times.

    “At fault for not fighting something” you can argue that, sure. “Benefiting,” or “helping” you cannot. There is no argument, it’s just definitionally false.

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        15 days ago

        Could’ve said that from the start! You didn’t have to die on this hill.

        I don’t especially want to continue the conversation into that with you after it took 20 comments of you slinging insults and shit over something that you now say doesn’t matter to get here. If I have to pull teeth over something so simple, obvious, and relatively unimportant then I see no sense in discussing other stuff.

        It’s not as if the terms I was insisting on would make it impossible to criticize my position. There’s no reason you couldn’t have accepted those terms to start and continued the debate.

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          15 days ago

          Oh no, you’re still wrong about that, you letting fascists win is absolutely benefiting fascists. You refusing to accept that has required you to make insane leaps of mental gymnastics. I just gave up because no amount of logic can reach you.

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            15 days ago

            “Insane leaps of mental gymnasics,” like, “Doing nothing has no impact on the election.”

            As opposed to “logic,” like, “Doing nothing is a +0 which is neither an increase nor a decrease except also it is a decrease because it’s not an increase and not increasing is the same as decreasing because zero doesn’t exist.”

            Tell you what, if doing nothing counts as helping someone, then rest assured that I’ll give Kamala my “help.”

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              12 days ago

              I’m surprised that you seem to not realize that you helped bring Trump back in power. This was the plan, wasn’t it? Jill Stein had no chance at gaining the office, but you rallied against Harris nonetheless.

              Those .3-.5% in key states could have stopped Trump, and solidified under a banner that isn’t anti-LGBTQ+.

              The Green party essentially is under Trump.

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                12 days ago

                First of all I live in Illinois, so my vote doesn’t matter at all. Second, Harris would’ve needed a lot more that 0.3% to win, she lost PA by a solid 2.0%. Even if you do the unrealistic thing y’all do of adding third party votes to your candidate’s total, you’re not going to have enough to win.

                But none of that is really relevant. The people who helped Trump win were the people who voted for him. I didn’t help either candidate win because I didn’t vote for either candidate. I helped Kamala exactly as much as I helped Trump.

                I don’t really have an interest in continuing this purely semantic argument where I consider myself to be objectively correct about the meaning of terminology.