No video released yet but the right wing blog-sphere is already claiming it’s AI. Put on your seat-belts and keep your hands inside the car at all times.
That’s… Interesting. This site is considered to have a significant right bias, but it’s still reporting on these claims, and seems to give them credibility. OTOH, Times Now News has a very mixed record on facts, so this might be total bullshit.
We’ll see what happens. If it’s real, and it comes out with a week left before the election, that might be just enough to tip the scales. Maybe.
Doubtful, GOP was perfectly willing to vote for a pedophile before, this is literally nothing to them.
The stupid incels will vote for this fucker even harder now.
The fucked up racist MAGATs will still vote for the sick Russian run Orange Shit Stain.
You can hear the evangelical church thinking about the arguments… groping is not rape! Yeah! Groping isn’t rape!
This fascist POS was literally found to be a credible sexual abuser and it did nothing.
This too, if proven true, will also do nothing because Republicans endorse this type of behavior.
I can all but guarantee that this won’t sway a single one of his voters. In fact, watch that this doesn’t get him even more support. They love circling the wagons when their beloved king is in trouble.
“It’s just locker room hijinks, you guys!!!1111”
If anything it will give them permission to do it too.
B O M B S H E L L
right up there with S L A M M E D
Personally I’d like to see some other words be used like; eviscerated, mutilated, kill-a-man-jaroed, and my personal favorite, decimated.
If they want evidence of Trump abusing minors there is an Epstein case they might want to mention.
Like this is going to be the thing that turns off the Maga’ts.
They’re clearly going to say it’s fake n that Hillary n Obama are the real sex offenders
Probably turns some on tbh
As someone who had to sit through a seemingly unending stream of videos of Biden sniffing hair etc, none of which were as damning as the people boosting them claimed, I really hope they either don’t release this, or it actually is what it claims to be, not some similar crap.
“Donald Trump loses his balance and accidentally makes contact with a girl’s butt” or similar ambiguous clip is probably not going to do anything except make me have to start ignoring videos of Biden sniffing hair again when magas start posting them in retaliation or whatever.
I loved the Biden sniffing hair videos!! They were so creepy but also funny. I was hoping he would keep doing it after he was president lol.
I also voted for Joe biden. Only because of the sniffing actually lol
Only because of the sniffing actually
Brand new sentence, and I love it.
Only because of the sniffing actually
Brand new sentence, and I love it.
Same with “Trump speaks slowly and closes his eyes for a couple seconds” being paraded around as him being ‘exhausted’ or even ‘sundowning’.
None of it could possibly sway voters, it’s just to make the voting base feel good about their choice of support.
“Closes his eyes for a couple seconds”? Yeah, Trump spending a half hour of his rally walking the stage aimlessly to music was probably just his whimsical side, not a sign that his mind is anything less than razor-sharp. Libs these days will exaggerate ANYTHING!
Even if he was dead on his feet, how does that change anything? The only people who care about the optics of it are libs who already find him gross and disturbed… It makes dems feel better about their candidate’s chances (“look, he’s tired and on the ropes, give him the haymaker!”). If anything, him being a tired sleepy old man undercuts their message that he’s a vindictive and dangerous fascist who’s losing touch with reality. It wouldn’t surprise me if his change in demeanor is an intentional choice to make him look more chill and reasonable.
You hear how republicans reacted to that town hall? They fucking loved it, they talk about it like it was a birthright trip or something.
Being a tried sleepy old man doesn’t prevent one from being a dangerous fascist. Source prior dangerous fascists who continued to be so long after they got old.
Of course not, but people don’t think of tired sleepy old men as dangerous fascists.
The optics are mutually exclusive, even if the qualities themselves aren’t.
Yes I agree it won’t change anything. Everybody is pretty much decided at this point, and the whole neck-and-neck race thing is basically clickbait for ads.
the whole neck-and-neck race thing is basically clickbait for ads.
Yea, I kinda hate that attitude, too, honestly. True enough that polls are already like trying to read tea-leaves, and there’s ample motivation to play games with the results to skew a particular way. But people tend to apply that analysis selectively so that they don’t have to confront the possibility their candidate/political calculations aren’t popular. When our media circles are being blasted with petty reporting about one candidate or the other taking a dookey on stage or whatever-the-fuck, it becomes increasingly difficult to keep expectations reasonably close to reality because you’re ignoring about half the signs and granting too much weight to the signs you actually do see.
The race is neck-and-neck, by just about any reasonable projection. But the margin of error is something like ±3/4%, and that’s assuming a healthy sample and is just a snapshot that is still weeks away from election day. A poll on the day of the election that has Harris -1 in Michigan could end up being Trump +3 or vice-versa, and that’s completely within the margin for that poll.
But if you’re not even hearing what’s being said on the opposite end of the spectrum, let alone actually trying to understand what’s being said, then you’re gonna be completely taken for a ride come nov 6. For 6 months after the election, analysts and most Americans will be scratching their heads trying to understand what happened (win or lose) because people just have no idea what the other half of the country is actually feeling. And when people are sure they had it right, and then have those expectations flipped on the day, that’s when you get people storming the capital or spending years prosecuting foreign interference that was completely out in the open the whole time.
I appreciate and agree with most of your post, but I disagree that we are all so disconnected from each other’s feelings. Perhaps it’s a regional thing, but many of us have relatives, if not friends, who deeply disagree with our politics. We not only get exposed to the others’ views through social interactions, but we also absorb any political media they have on in the background on holidays and other get-togethers. Some of us also want to understand what the other end of the spectrum is exposed to and seek out some content from these sources for a variety of different reasons.
I don’t understand the mindset and thinking of people in my life that are so far on the other side when it comes to these issues, but I don’t write them off or feel disgusted by them as people unless and until they start promoting hate speech in most cases.
I’m also not experiencing any delusions about inevitable outcomes on election day. I’m preparing for either reality, but I’m more actively preparing myself for the opposite outcome of what I’m hoping for. Lemmy does a great job of reminding me how possible this is in comment sections every day.
I’m doing what I can by helping and encouraging friends, coworkers, and my partner to vote. He even requested an absentee ballot after months of telling me he wasn’t going to vote. I didn’t push, and I don’t consume most news media when we’re together. He has just had a harder time ignoring the evidence of his eyes and ears lately.
Nothing is decided. If we care at all about not feeling the gut punch that was November 9th of 2016, if not worse, then we should do what we can to prevent that from happening again.
His sycophants forgive any crime he commits. They will blame the minor not him.
Riley: Oh, yes, the victim! At what point does personal responsibility become a factor in this equation?
Dubois: I don’t think that’s–
Riley: I see piss coming, I move.
Huey: mmm
Riley: She saw piss coming, she stayed.
Dubois: Yes, she did, but–
Riley: And why should I have to miss out on the next R. Kelly album! Just for that?!
Is this a transcript? Please tell me it isn’t.
It’s an excerpt from an episode of The Boondocks
It’s become relevant again as a fringe group of people are defending their favorites that got implicated in the diddy parties. At least this time it seems like much less people are on the offenders side, but maybe thats because there are so many offenders that the misplaced support is more distributed than when it was just R Kelly or just Bill Cosby.
It was the last episode of boondocks for many people.
They use the DARVO strategy: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO
So they will probably end up blaming the girl.
Obviously a liberal sleeper agent
He’s bragged about doing it before. I don’t see how this would affect his popularity.
It isn’t, in fact despite the video not being released it’s already being “debunked” as AI on Far Right websites.
This is just conspiratorial garbage. That article is garbage. I would love for something like this to take him down, but if you think this has any credibility, please realize that your ability to critically analyze new information is ridiculously clouded by confirmation bias.
It’s such a waste of time
“Without proof, claims of video of event exists”
And then it’s just random people on twitter
Did Charlie Kirk tweet that? If so, I’d believe it’s 100% for real and they’re trying to get out in front of it. Like many posters below point out, his base won’t care.
I would just as rather believe that the whole thing is a right-wing plan:
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Get conservatives to harp about an incoming deepfake.
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Get liberals thinking talking about it, condemning Trump for something they haven’t even seen yet.
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Release a video, that actually is a deepfake, a deepfake created BY conservatives.
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The deepfake is quickly discovered, and conservatives accuse liberals of trying to frame Trump for sexual assault.
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I have a hard time discerning if Kirk knows this, or if he’s just projecting after the Swift AI nonsense.
The tweet is vague. We’ve seen ai been used already in this election to spread misinformation, so it’s saying Democrats might do so could refer to literally anything.
But when put in the context of this supposed tape, it dishonestly makes it sound like they are talking about it.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d be happily wrong about this, but this is literally nothing right now.
The fact that the some of the most immoral spin-doctors that aren’t directly related to the Trump campaign – Posobiec and Kirk for starters – are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.
That being said, whether there is actually a video or they’re reacting to the same rumored threat is unknown. Even if it were true, I honestly don’t know if it would make enough of a difference for Trump’s supporters. And, again if true, the longer they hold the video and allow advance spin and damage control to run unopposed, the less effect it will have. The simple fact is that Trump supporters would then be looking for any reason to simple dismiss/ignore it, and they will undoubtedly be given many reasons by affiliates of Trump’s campaign.
are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.
This is a lot of assumptions. They are constantly saying Democrats are about to do something bad. It’s part of their shtick, and they are just trying to keep people afraid.
But even if we agree and they are clearly trying to get out in front of something that doesn’t make anything we put into that hole “has more weight.”
Trump spin-doctors are specifically referencing that democrats are going to release an “AI-generated” piece of media. I’m assuming that means they’re worried something might be released soon. That’s it, I’m not putting anything in a “hole,” I’m just waiting to see what they’re trying to get in front of.
We have two people, who often claim Democrats are about to do something bad, tweeting that Democrats are about to do something bad. This isn’t “clearly getting ahead of something” it could just be their typical fear mongering.
You also said that this “fact” gives the claim more weight, but it still could be referring to literally anything.
All we have is some “social media users” saying there is a tape and misleading via context claims that 2 of the hundreds of right wing spin doctors are vaguely referencing a video.
It’s absolutely nothing at this point
OK
Sure there’s video. There’s a pee tape too. Just like the tooth fairy and a politician that cares. They all exist.
But is it a bombshell? Most voters are already decided. Trump’s flock will ignore any bad news about him, and the rest won’t be convinced to vote for Harris any harder than they plan to or have already done. The vision being fed to us, of a nail-biting race seesawing back forth, is just clickbait for ads,
They can get demoralized and stay home.
Certainly couldn’t be ruled out, but probably not to an extent that makes the news a “bombshell”.
Stop doing work by trying to preempt the “does this matter though” argument for them?
Maybe there’s a video, maybe there’s not.
But nobody is saying “No way! Trump would never do that!” or “This is a shocking scandal that nobody would have believed!”
That’s the sad reality of it. The sadder part is that, even if it’s true, his cult still won’t care.
And, of course, the minor being groped won’t see any justice.
And, of course, the minor being groped won’t see any justice.
Not only that, she’ll get death threats.
I think what’s even sadder is that so-called moderates and centrists won’t care. Trump didn’t win in 2016 due to his cult. He won because everyday people recognized how fucked up he was and decided they didn’t care.
And don’t forget the “huhuhuhuh imma vote for him as a joke, bro” crowd.
There are a lot of people who went for Trump in 2016 that he’s never going to get back again. The “I only voted for him as a joke because I thought he had no chance and I didn’t like Clinton as a candidate” folks are real. I know one in real life and he’s very repentant. Voted for Biden in 2020 and will be voting for Harris this November.
He’s no longer an unknown quantity, so people voting for him because they were giving him the benefit of the doubt have had an entire Trump term to have that doubt stripped away. I think they’ll avoid making that mistake again, just like they avoided it in 2020.
Then there’s the accelerationists who thought voting Trump in would be the quickest way to bring about a rapid collapse of the shitty duopoly and convince both parties that they need to reevaluate their platforms. As it turns out, it just dragged both parties even further right, so those guys can safely stay home knowing that handing Trump a second term isn’t going to further their agenda in the slightest.
I’m sure there were a lot of people who were just duped with misinformation and bullshit, and I hope those guys still remember how they were tricked last time and vote accordingly.
Lastly, I still believe that there are American voters out there who drew lines in the sand, said they were uncrossable, and meant it. Things like staging a coup to remain in power, getting impeached twice, threatening to end the constitution, and threatening to use the military against his political opponents. Those people have to step up to the plate now more than ever.
As it turns out, it just dragged both parties even further right, so those guys can safely stay home knowing that handing Trump a second term isn’t going to further their agenda in the slightest.
If lemmy comments are anything to go by, they haven’t learned.
Thankfully those only voted Trump in 2016 and quickly found it wasn’t funny
There are plenty of kids who just turned 18 this year. They were 9 when Trump began his first campaign, and certainly don’t remember any political reality before it.
I don’t think enough of them will be voting for lols this time to matter, but it’s worth noting that every electorate for every election is distinct.
That was my reading in 2016 – before the election, I realized that the “thrill vote” would go to Trump, and the average folks were going to sit it out because Hillary Clinton couldn’t energize anybody.
I’m getting a lot of those feelings around KH too. I just hope folks come out for the anti-Trump vote, at least.
“Finally getting Trump out of the News Cycle” isn’t motivating!?!
Do you honestly believe he’ll be out of the news cycle if he loses?
Yes actually, well he wouldn’t be in it as much as if he were the President (…again)
Actually given his advanced age and delirium I wouldn’t be surprised if the loudest news stories besides “He did 1/6 again…” and “Trump Voters don’t approve of Kamela, I wonder what reason totally not related to her skintone it could be, let’s just ignore the elephant in the room like we did with questioning why they didn’t like Obama back when they were the Tea Party” would be…
“He had a stroke and choked on a hamberder”
I’m only being slightly cynical since he’s doing shit like falling asleep at rallies, this man’s body is trying to die and he’s fighting it to run for President. That’s a man on borrowed time if I ever saw it. It’s also a man who has nothing to lose and is a heartbeat away from putting Vance in charge, both of those are scary potential realities if he’s President.
I grabbed her titty. She asked me too. With a tear in her eye she said please please please Mr. Trump touch my titty. I obligated. I couldn’t help it. I had to. She was so innocent. It was a perfect titty touch.
“When it comes to fondling tits, everyone tells me I’m the best - that’s what they all tell me. I can’t help it - I see a beautiful woman and I have to do it, and they let me, you know, because I’m famous and they love it, they’ll let you do whatever you want. My friend Jeffrey Epstein always said that, and boy we had a lot of fun, he really knew how to find em, the greatest most beautiful young women, whenever we wanted we’d grab em and kiss em and anything else, though none of them could compare to my beautiful Ivanka… anyway Alexa play Ave Maria”
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As hard as it is to listen to talk radio it’s also kind of fun to catch the nuances in their bullshit. Someone accuses Trump of praising Hitler and immediately they say, “Wow! This is such a desperate play from the Democrats!”
I hate the man and I’m saying I don’t think he’s this stupid. He wants to get re-elected too much to do something so reckless.
Has he assaulted other women? No fucking doubt. But not two weeks from the election at a campaign event with a ton of reporters around him. It’s not believable.
