climate scientists have already lit themselves on fire trying to warn people and it didn’t actually do anything
people are too religious to believe in science
People are setting themselves on fire, throwing food at famous art or stopping traffic because it feels like a bad dream where you see the disaster coming and you’re trying to shake people to get them to understand that we have to DO something, and they just stare straight ahead like zombies.
These are people who are scared and frustrated because we’ve tried EVERYTHING and nobody actually cares. When I tried to impart this message on reddit, people were like “I get it but why can’t they just promote recycling or protest peacefully?” and then a 50-comment deep thread about whether or not the liquid soup can work its way through the screws on the plating that covers the artwork and what kind of lasting damage it might do.
Meanwhile, our destruction is literally around the corner. I don’t get it.
We deserve what’s coming.
The Religion: $$$$
Sorry but fuck you doomerist cunts. No, we are not gonna have an easy time AT ALL. But giving up plays right into hands of corporations and governments destroying our planet. Every single improvement we are able to push through will limit suffering.
If we do nothing and completely give up, we will never know what suffering we could have prevented. I know it is not easy and things are not looking good. If we had not fought for some of the improvements we were able to push through, things would have been even worse than they are right now. Every. Single. Thing. Helps.
Don’t even let these evil fucking cunts win no matter how hard they kick and scream and destroy stuff.
Nah, I call bullshit. You can try every little thing you want. In the end in won’t matter. We are fucked and you just can’t accept it. We either massively change things now or our efforts won’t matter. People already complain about small changes and what we need means a massive lifestyle change for billions. It ain’t happening. Get your head out of your own ass please.
Eh, humanity had a nice run. I mean it’s not like I can stop the 100 highest polluting countries and corporations that account for like 90% of the problem. So I might as well just accept our inevitable extinction.
wow. that easy, huh? gimme your wallet, punk. you seem like a pushover. there’s plenty of things you can do to stop them once you start thinking outside the box.
There is very little we can do when the primary producers or pollution are oil companies and our leaders are not willing to hold them accountable.
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Are you driving a car?
Ok, stopped going to work and am now fired. I guess I’ll starve to death in a few weeks. That should reduce my impact on the climate.
Do you try to minimize your reliance on driving a car or do you throw your hands up and claim that other people need to change, not you?
This agenda of personal responsibility is exactly what keeps us from holding the true guilty parties accountable. This is like saying the abuser isn’t the abuser, because you can go to therapy or leave any time. But we can’t leave any time.
Love,
A work from home vegan.
What is your objective, to hold people accountable or to save the planet? Saying that individuals are responsible for the majority of climate emissions is not about shifting blame. Oil companies and bad luck (society picked fossil fuels before we really understood climate change) are to blame, but now we have to switch to damage control mode and that falls on individuals (and the government and corporations, but in a democratic free market society those both wrap back around to individuals anyways). It’s just the hand that we have been dealt.
This agenda of personal responsibility is exactly what keeps us from holding the true guilty parties accountable.
I think it’s the opposite. It’s the agenda of “it’s someone else’s problem” is what’s holding us back. It’s almost a classic case of the prisoners dilemma where individuals (both people and corporations) make the decision that is less favorable for everyone overall because they are afraid of what happens if they make the best decision and no one else does.
We all have a responsibility, and if we individuals all start making better choices, then some corporations will cater to that, and it can snowball.
It’s not an either or scenario. It’s if we want to get there fast, which we need to, everyone rushing there right now is the best…while waiting around for others to solve the problem will not get us there fast enough.
Drop everything and do what exactly
ME? I KNOW WHO I AM
I AM DUDE
Yeah I’ve understood since high school, what the fuck do you want me to do about it when I can barely keep myself and my family alive as is?
This particular author wants you to panic.
We are certainly facing many environmental crisis, there’s no doubt about that… But the data here seems limited. I assume we simply don’t have measurements older than 50 years to add to this graph?
Edit: Here is a better graph!
Still alarming, but the data only goes back so far… It feels like something everyone needs to pay attention to and take seriously, but perhaps turning down the Vault-Tec guy knocking at your door is still a reasonable action to take.
We can currently choose between:
- climate change causing drought, heat, rain, flooding and storms with hail or tornados;
- biodiversity loss preventing pollinating our food and capturing carbon (see climate change);
- nuclear war in a politically unstable world;
- tyrannic forms of government threatening our freedom;
- underpaid slave labour in a capitalistic society, also threatening our freedom;
- no way to divert that incoming meteor;
- business as usual causing the next pandemic;
- more old than young people leading to less care and less work altogether;
- AI taking over the world;
- any mix of the above leading to a collapse of society. Feel free to expand.
Vote for Jill Stein and support the Green party in any way you can.
I thought the same in 2016, so I voted for her. In hindsight she had zero chance of winning. She still has zero chance of winning.
We need to grow the party. You just voted and sat around watching our planet be destroyed, we have to do more.
So you threw your vote away.
No, that’s when you vote for things you don’t agree with.
I don’t see how another Trump presidency is going to help.
I don’t see how voting for what the post shows helps. That’s what you’re doing with a vote for Trump or Biden. We need to grow the Green party fast, no time left for your Dem shilling.
My ‘dem shilling’ is based on cold hard facts. I have thrown away votes on Jill Stein before. Rally support for third parties in local elections till the cows come home. Please! But if you think Jill Stein has any chance of accomplishing anything aside from splitting the left in this or any election you are delusional.
And personally Jill is the Hilary of the Greens. They can do better.
My ‘dem shilling’ is based on cold hard facts.
Where? You’ve presented nothing.
I have thrown away votes on Jill Stein before. Rally support for third parties in local elections till the cows come home. Please! But if you think Jill Stein has any chance of accomplishing anything aside from splitting the left in this or any election you are delusional.
Then what? You’re too lazy to make change, you just vote and do nothing. I am making change in my community, what are you doing?
And personally Jill is the Hilary of the Greens. They can do better.
Then run for the candidacy. Green party is democratic unlike the “Dem” side of capitalism you want to vote for and she was the most popular candidate by far.
You’re too lazy to make change, you just vote and do nothing.
Rude. You don’t know me based on a comment.
I am making change in my community
How’s that, maybe you could try to lead by example instead of insult.
Then run for the candidacy. Green party is democratic unlike the “Dem” side of capitalism you want to vote for and she was the most popular candidate by far.
Dude, how old are you?
Clearly old enough to vote
I see no evidence of that.
Are you even from the US to make any kind of knowledgeable comment on our politics? I ask because we don’t call our news the post. Also you clearly didn’t know of what you speak considering what happened last time people tried to really a third party vote here.
Are you even from the US to make any kind of knowledgeable comment on our politics? Look at my account
I ask because we don’t call our news the post.
The literal post we’re commenting on.
Also you clearly didn’t know of what you speak considering what happened last time people tried to really a third party vote here.
We’re not even taking votes from Dems, going for non-voters.
Ok, fair enough, where you’re from honestly isn’t super important, I was curious. I’m also a little confused, how do you target non voters ensuring you don’t take votes away from Democrats. Would you mind explaining that to me?
I’m glad we were able to create plastic for the earth and help set the course for future wonders never before imaginable.
So what you are saying is that there is a chance we’ll get to tan like this?
One step near to robocop
