• Phegan@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    There is very little we can do when the primary producers or pollution are oil companies and our leaders are not willing to hold them accountable.

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        25 days ago

        Ok, stopped going to work and am now fired. I guess I’ll starve to death in a few weeks. That should reduce my impact on the climate.

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          25 days ago

          Do you try to minimize your reliance on driving a car or do you throw your hands up and claim that other people need to change, not you?

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            25 days ago

            This agenda of personal responsibility is exactly what keeps us from holding the true guilty parties accountable. This is like saying the abuser isn’t the abuser, because you can go to therapy or leave any time. But we can’t leave any time.

            Love,

            A work from home vegan.

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              This agenda of personal responsibility is exactly what keeps us from holding the true guilty parties accountable.

              I think it’s the opposite. It’s the agenda of “it’s someone else’s problem” is what’s holding us back. It’s almost a classic case of the prisoners dilemma where individuals (both people and corporations) make the decision that is less favorable for everyone overall because they are afraid of what happens if they make the best decision and no one else does.

              We all have a responsibility, and if we individuals all start making better choices, then some corporations will cater to that, and it can snowball.

              It’s not an either or scenario. It’s if we want to get there fast, which we need to, everyone rushing there right now is the best…while waiting around for others to solve the problem will not get us there fast enough.

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              25 days ago

              What is your objective, to hold people accountable or to save the planet? Saying that individuals are responsible for the majority of climate emissions is not about shifting blame. Oil companies and bad luck (society picked fossil fuels before we really understood climate change) are to blame, but now we have to switch to damage control mode and that falls on individuals (and the government and corporations, but in a democratic free market society those both wrap back around to individuals anyways). It’s just the hand that we have been dealt.

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        25 days ago

        I don’t see how voting for what the post shows helps. That’s what you’re doing with a vote for Trump or Biden. We need to grow the Green party fast, no time left for your Dem shilling.

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          My ‘dem shilling’ is based on cold hard facts. I have thrown away votes on Jill Stein before. Rally support for third parties in local elections till the cows come home. Please! But if you think Jill Stein has any chance of accomplishing anything aside from splitting the left in this or any election you are delusional.

          And personally Jill is the Hilary of the Greens. They can do better.

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            My ‘dem shilling’ is based on cold hard facts.

            Where? You’ve presented nothing.

            I have thrown away votes on Jill Stein before. Rally support for third parties in local elections till the cows come home. Please! But if you think Jill Stein has any chance of accomplishing anything aside from splitting the left in this or any election you are delusional.

            Then what? You’re too lazy to make change, you just vote and do nothing. I am making change in my community, what are you doing?

            And personally Jill is the Hilary of the Greens. They can do better.

            Then run for the candidacy. Green party is democratic unlike the “Dem” side of capitalism you want to vote for and she was the most popular candidate by far.

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              Are you even from the US to make any kind of knowledgeable comment on our politics? I ask because we don’t call our news the post. Also you clearly didn’t know of what you speak considering what happened last time people tried to really a third party vote here.

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                Are you even from the US to make any kind of knowledgeable comment on our politics? Look at my account

                I ask because we don’t call our news the post.

                The literal post we’re commenting on.

                Also you clearly didn’t know of what you speak considering what happened last time people tried to really a third party vote here.

                We’re not even taking votes from Dems, going for non-voters.

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                  Ok, fair enough, where you’re from honestly isn’t super important, I was curious. I’m also a little confused, how do you target non voters ensuring you don’t take votes away from Democrats. Would you mind explaining that to me?

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              You’re too lazy to make change, you just vote and do nothing.

              Rude. You don’t know me based on a comment.

              I am making change in my community

              How’s that, maybe you could try to lead by example instead of insult.

              Then run for the candidacy. Green party is democratic unlike the “Dem” side of capitalism you want to vote for and she was the most popular candidate by far.

              Dude, how old are you?

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      I thought the same in 2016, so I voted for her. In hindsight she had zero chance of winning. She still has zero chance of winning.

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    26 days ago

    So what you are saying is that there is a chance we’ll get to tan like this?

    One step near to robocop

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    26 days ago

    I’m glad we were able to create plastic for the earth and help set the course for future wonders never before imaginable.