Only 27 percent of voters who plan to vote for Biden in the 2024 election say they genuinely like him as a candidate.
  • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    24 days ago

    I generally like Biden and I’m still more motivated by voting against trump. I’m amazed on a daily basis how many ignorant school shooter wannabes roam around here chanting fantasies without any basis in reality convincing themselves that they aren’t culpable if they don’t accept reality.

  • Chainweasel@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    25 days ago

    As far as I’m concerned we only have one legitimate party at the moment and that’s the one I’m going to vote for.
    But, even though Biden isn’t nearly as progressive as I’d like, he still beats the brakes off of any other democratic president we’ve had other than Jimmy Carter, so I wouldn’t say he’s doing a bad job per se.
    If he were running against a “rational” Republican I’d still vote for him, so I wouldn’t say I’m motivated solely by my hatred for Trump.

    • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      Biden, DNC, establishment Democrats and Boomer Democrat voters: Okay guys we need to figure out who to elevate in the 2028 Republican primaries who’s just as vile as Trump so those uppity leftists will have to keep voting for our pro-corporate asses.

      • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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        25 days ago

        Learn about the electoral college. We’re literally forced into this 2 party choice.

            • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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              25 days ago

              Because decades of being marginalized by Boomers have left generations after them trained to think their participation has no effect. Which is precisely the intention. You’re happy it works right up until the point where we don’t vote for your geriatric genocide supporting procorporate trash of a human being in the general election.

              • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                24 days ago

                Yeah, I’m quite upset you would abstain and let a fascist walk in, sure. That is fair.

                But you’re deliberately avoiding the question. If leftists are so numerous and their views so popular, WHY CAN THEY NOT OVERPOWER THE BOOMER DEMS?

                Face it- you do the same shit everyone else does. You cry and whine because you didn’t get your way and you stop all effort. You didn’t get every damn thing you wanted (besides student loans forgiven, medicare insulin capped, biggest climate bill ever, a president walking in a picket line, etc.) so it’s time to give up? It’s time to abstain because of genocide knowing the other actual choice would be FAR WORSE for Palestine (let alone everything else)? But hey, at least go go gadget would get to be all haughty and on their high horse saying “my conscience is clear” while everything gets worse.

                Maybe be in it for the long haul and be the change you want to see. Again- if leftists are so numerous they should have no problem pulling AOCs all over the place and changing the landscape dramatically. The right can do it so why can’t the left?

                Again, I’m not upset you have morals and want to end the genocide in Palestine, etc. I do too. I want better healthcare (either nationalized, single payer, some universal with public/private a la Germany, etc.), I want better social safety nets, guaranteed parental leave, etc. I think a lot do.

                I’m upset that people like you bitch and moan all the goddamn time and act as if you’re so marginalized and so victimized that you not only abstain yourself but convince others to do the same, or don’t vote in primaries, or don’t volunteer, etc.

                You need to face up to the facts- either leftist/progressive voters are NOT as numerous as you all think and you get represented precisely how much you should be given how big the tent has to be in a FPTP system or leftist/progressive voters are numerous and are simply extremely apathetic where they can’t be bothered to turn out for someone that isn’t basically their knight in shining armor. In which case, again, they get represented EXACTLY how much they should because they are lazy and flakey and not worth anyone’s time courting.

                I don’t want to beat people down but I’m tired of people acting as if there is a huge groundswell of support. Study after study and election after election show that the issue is exactly as I described in the previous paragraph. Either show up and be counted or continue to whine when things don’t go your way.

                • Victoria Antoinette @lemmy.world
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                  24 days ago

                  If leftists are so numerous and their views so popular

                  they never made such a claim. in fact, all the evidence is that dems don’t care if leftists vote at all.

  • tiredofsametab@kbin.run
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    25 days ago

    I honestly wonder what I’d do if a non-maga candidate replaced trump. Not vote for them, but I might vote for a third party at that point. Unless something changes, it wouldn’t much matter; my voter registration is in a place that is very comfortably red so I’m not going to be able to change that.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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          24 days ago

          Damn Trump didn’t lie about WMD’s in Iraq killing >1 million people but he’s a convicted sex offender! That’s so much worse!

      • JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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        25 days ago

        Didn’t you say you were never going to post here again after accusing the mods of being Zionist genocide supporters?

        Just curious.

          • JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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            24 days ago

            So, did you set a specific date for when you’re going to leave this community like you said you would? Because I know if I thought the mods were…. “Genocide supporting zionists”, I wouldn’t feel comfortable supporting their community with content for any longer than I had to.

            • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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              24 days ago

              A community that only gets to see one view of the world is the one that most needs factual correction.

              Why does reddit r/conservative ban anyone that opposes their viewpoints? They want to keep the echo chamber going.

  • Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    and that is why we the people will lose this election as well

    we either stop supporting bad candidates from any party or we get stuck with them

    why the fuck does any want four years of Trump or Biden is wild

    Both are too old and both are set on taking us way back in time

    already lost women’s rights and worker’s rights

    how much do y’all want to lose?

    guess we will see in the next four years what we get to lose next already getting to the point crossing state borders is difficult