• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I don’t get the ai hate sentiment.

    I don’t get what’s not to get. AI is a heap of bullshit that’s piled on top of a decade of cryptobros.

    it’s not even impressive enough to make a positive world impact in the 2-3 years it’s been publicly available.

    shit is going to crash and burn like web3.

    I’ve seen people put full on contracts that are behind NDAs through a public content trained AI.

    I’ve seen developers use cuck-pilot for a year and “never” code again… until the PR is sent back over and over and over again and they have to rewrite it.

    I’ve seen the AI news about new chemicals, new science, new _fill-in-the-blank and it all be PR bullshit.

    so yeah, I don’t believe AI is our savior. can it make some convincing porn? sure. can it do my taxes? probably not.

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      4 hours ago

      When I hear “AI”, I think of that thing that proofreads my emails and writes boilerplate code. Just a useful tool among a long list of others. Why would I spend emotional effort hating it? I think people who “hate” AI are just as annoying as the people pushing it as the solution to all our problems.

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      7 hours ago

      You are ignoring ALL of the of the positive applications of AI from several decades of development, and only focusing on the negative aspects of generative AI.

      Here is a non-exhaustive list of some applications:

      • In healthcare as a tool for earlier detection and prevention of certain diseases
      • For anomaly detection in intrusion detection system, protecting web servers
      • Disaster relief for identifying the affected areas and aiding in planning the rescue effort
      • Fall detection in e.g. phones and smartwatches that can alert medical services, especially useful for the elderly.
      • Various forecasting applications that can help plan e.g. production to reduce waste. Etc…

      There have even been a lot of good applications of generative AI, e.g. in production, especially for construction, where a generative AI can the functionally same product but with less material, while still maintaining the strength. This reduces cost of manufacturing, and also the environmental impact due to the reduced material usage.

      Does AI have its problems? Sure. Is generative AI being misused and abused? Definitely. But just because some applications are useless it doesn’t mean that the whole field is.

      A hammer can be used to murder someone, that does not mean that all hammers are murder weapons.

      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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        7 hours ago

        give me at least two peer reviewed articles that AI has had a measurably positive impact on society over the last 24 months.

        shouldn’t be too hard for AI to come up with that, right?

        if you can do that then I’ll admit that AI has potential to become more than a crypto scam.

        • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.dev
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          6 hours ago

          He’s already given you 5 examples of positive impact. You’re just moving the goalposts now.

          I’m happy to bash morons who abuse generative AIs in bad applications and I can acknowledge that LLM-fuelled misinformation is a problem, but don’t lump “all AI” together and then deny the very obvious positive impact other applications have had (e.g. in healthcare).

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            4 hours ago

            LLMs fucking suck. But there are things that don’t suck. AI chess engines have entirety changed the game, AI protein predictors have made designer drugs and nanobots come within our grasp.

            It’s just that tech bros want to grab quick cash from us peasants and that somehow equates to integrating chat gpt into everything. The most moronic of AI has become their poster child. It’s like if we asked people what a US president is like in character and everybody showed Trump to them as an example.

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      9 hours ago

      If I just hand wave all the good things and call them bullshit, AI is nothing more than bad things!

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        7 hours ago

        If I just hand wave all the bad things and call them amazing, AI is everything but the bad things!

        • cryptobros AI evangelists
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        8 hours ago

        Current “AI’s” (LLMs) are only useful for art and non-fact based text. The two things people particularly do not need computers to do for them.

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          Llms fucking suck. But that’s the worst kind of ai. It’s just an autocorrect on steroids. But you know what a good ai is? The one that give an amino acid sequence predicts it’s 3d structure. It’s mind boggling. We can design personal protein robots with that kind of knowledge.

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          6 hours ago

          hey bitch youre killed two people in your trolley problem. You suck bro. Why did you kill two people? You should be attached on the track bro, not gonna lie.

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      6 hours ago

      If AI image generation is so bad why we have so many etsy and patreon artists complaining about it?

      If no one would use it because it is so bad why would anyone care that it is trained on their products?

      Do you know this joke about MAGA and the Schrodinger’s immigrant? They somehow believe that immigrants are both stealing people jobs and lazy and living on wellfare.

      AntiAI bros are somehow similar. AI is at the same time stealing artists jobs and completely useless incapable of producing nothing that people would want.