ownCloud becomes part of Kiteworks - ownCloud
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Kiteworks and ownCloud join forces to underscore its commitment to the DACH market.

I guess that means it’s dead, as there’s no way a corporation would pay millions to acquire a competitor just to continue developing a free alternative to their own product

  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I tried NC recently (like 2 weeks ago) and fuck me it’s an awful piece of shit, full-stop. It broke completely 3x during initial setup, needing a container wipe and beginning from scratch each time, then I was following the official docs and the ‘status / security’ page of the admin area where it told me to do something that had no gui (so they are 100% aware anyone new has to do this but cba to throw it a fucking web page) and if you edit the config file on the machine directly, even if you stop the container, it breaks permissions (???) so you have to download it from your server, edit, and re-upload it (somehow doesn’t break permissions???). This took an hour to figure out, the doc was useless.

    Then you get to the plug-in page and fuck me could this be any worse. Pick one fucking category each, guys, I don’t need to see 40% of the same available plug-ins on almost every fucking category, jesus fucking christ. Then you dive into these things and you realize how surface-level they are - a task/to-do list should have a fucking import/export function, as well as REPEATING OPTIONS fuck me sideways are you seriously taking the piss. You’ll be setting up other plug-ins and they don’t actually function at all even though they have been verified to work with your version (medical plug in, for example) and it just keeps crumbling around you the further you go. Shit, even the weather widget on the ‘home page’ will show C instead of F when you select a country during account setup that uses F, with NO OBVIOUS WAY TO CHANGE THAT. The fix? Go through your region options, pick a different country, then back to your actual. Does NOBODY EVEN TEST THIS SHIT? How are they on version SIX of their ‘hub’?! This screams alpha, not multiple-stable-releases!

    Gahhhhh, fuck!

    /rant

    • cron@feddit.deEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Nice rant ;)

      I did never have any problems with installing it, but once or twice with upgrading. And I agree with you that the setup is complex with all the possible options and getting it to run well takes some time.

      When it comes to the apps, Nextcloud is a very open system. Its easy to publish an app, and the quality of the apps varies. Some apps are abandoned and don’t work in recent versions. Personally, I would recommend to keep the number of apps low for stability and security reasons.

      • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
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        1 year ago

        The update process is absolutely horrible, especially with containers.

        I seriously cannot understand how this hasn’t been fixed ages ago. Upgrading is kind of important and nextcloud isn’t doing that much weird stuff that it didn’t upgrade itself.

    • LDerJim@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Part of the problem is you don’t understand how containers work. If you need to do a ‘container wipe’ and starting from scratch, you’re doing it wrong.

      I’ve been running nextcloud in k8s for years and running a few occ upgrade commands after an upgrade is annoying but not the end of the world.

          • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 year ago

            This is the only container I’ve had anywhere near the amount of trouble with, others it’s just pulling a new image or something. I’ve been doing docker for like 5 years now, NC was just awful. Shouldn’t need to nuke anything while you’re still in the initial service setup phase…