Time is running out for Kamala Harris to break with Biden on the Gaza catastrophe | Moira Donegan
www.theguardian.com
Biden’s approach to Israel has been disastrous, both morally and strategically – and it could cost Harris dearly
    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      276·
      2 months ago

      When the election is over, what are centrists going to do when they can’t pretend that anyone who doesn’t support genocide is a trumper?

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        17·
        2 months ago

        Call them antisemitic like they did with the antiwar protests. And they’ll have all the centrist press reinforcing it so they’ll never need to consider whether there’s any deeper issue they should be thinking about.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          If you’re actively trying to steer people away from voting for the lesser of two evils,

          I’m not. I’ve never said the people should vote for anyone other than Harris. If Harris abandons her support for genocide, how many centrists do you think will immediately switch to Trump?

      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Ha, that is not how it will go. Without Trump there will be no existential threat to american democracy to leverage and I’ll be surprised if the media does not go dark on it. When people, like yourself try to rally you’ll find half the support you depend on was only there because it was election time and the rest will be deaf ears because everyone else would like to go back to their normal lives.

        Not saying it’s a good thing just the only thing keeping the discussion alive is how much it hurts the dems. It’s clearly an attack vector that had been amplified and you thinking your moral stance is what props it up is hubris.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          2 months ago

          I dunno. Why is all criticism of Harris/Biden supporting genocide met with “Yeah?! Whatabout Trump?! You want Trump to win?”

          Because that’s what centrists do when they get criticism about the only policy centrists won’t immediately abandon at the slightest pressure.

          • confluence@slrpnk.netEnglish
            42·
            2 months ago

            I can only speak for myself. If the polls are any accurate indication, my fear of Christian Nationalism overthrowing democracy in the United States may soon be realized. They appear neck and neck, so anything that shits on Kamala, I feel like it needs to fall on Trump’s head too. After the election, I can shit on Kamala’s genocidal dreams without needing to invoke Trump.

            The article is about costing her the election on the genocide issue, which is fucked up because voting her down only puts the other pro-genocide in, plus the Christian Nationalists.

            If it matters, I’m not a centrist.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              If Kamala loses, Trump wins. Do you want Kamala or Trump to win.

              Kamala. When she wins, what will be your new excuse to forbid all criticism of the genocide?