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    20 days ago

    Nah, I’m voting Trump. Especially since Dick Chaney came out in support of her. If the war pigs support her, I’m voting against her, 100%

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        20 days ago

        I see you have trouble reading, I’m sorry about that, I wish you luck with that

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      20 days ago

      Deciding who you vote for purely based on who else supports them is a terrible idea.

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          20 days ago

          Sure that’s fair if there are millions of Nazis, but now it’s a single one.

          It’s especially stupid considering Trump’s followers.

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        20 days ago

        It’s not purely that, there are a lot of reasons I won’t vote for Kamala. That was just a huge one.

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      If it weren’t for the fact that so many others would get hurt as a result, I’d wish you luck with your choice and hope that you get what you ask for.

      You absolutely deserve Trump.

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        20 days ago

        Thank you, I’m excited for a great economy and being able to get my savings built up again. :)

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          20 days ago

          Gotta say. It’s pretty refreshing to see someone from .ml being so openly MAGA. If only the rest of the “leftists” trumpers there were so honest about their intentions.

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            19 days ago

            What does .ml have to do with it? It was one of the available instances when I switched over from reddit.

            I do wish more people were open about voting Trump, but there was a long period where it literally could cost you your job, so I can see why there’s still some hesitancy. I think that’s going away though.

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              I don’t believe you for a second. But as long as you continue to believe that people are dumb enough to… that’s all that really matters right?

              And who knew people don’t like hiring fascists, right?

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                19 days ago

                No one but the actual brain dead think people voting for trump are fascist.

                And even though the Nazi party was a blowback reaction to socialism, does not mean every blowback against socialism is fascistic. If we’re not careful, there could be for sure, but trump voters are not fascists, and trump himself is not fascist.

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                  I’m not a fan of socialism, bud. So I’m not sure where you’re going with that, but you do whatever you need to do to justify voting for a fascist.

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      Trump is just as much of a warmongerer as anyone. He nearly started WWIII with Iran by assassinating Soleimani. Dick Cheney just doesn’t like him because of personal reasons.

      The only isolationists/doves are third party candidates, as has been the case for well over 20 years.

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        No he didn’t. We’re far closer to WWlll now than we ever were under Trump. Ukraine/Russia, Israel/Palestine, China is creeping up to attack Taiwan… And now Russia and China are tighter than ever, which is not good for the west.

        Dick Chaney doesn’t like him because Dick Chaney makes all his money on War. He was literally one of the masterminds behind our war with Iraq.

        Now, Mark Cuban… He doesn’t like Trump for personal reasons, lol.

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          Trump escalated tensions with both China and Russia, while giving total support to Israel. He bombed Syria, tore up the Iran deal, and attempted coups in Bolivia and Venezuela, while expanding sanctions on Cuba. Biden has merely continued his policies. There is broad bipartisan consensus on military spending and escalation of conflicts, and Trump has no real interest in going against that.

          Trump talks out of both sides of his mouth to allow everyone to project whatever they want onto him, whether they’re isolationist or the most bloodthirsty of nationalists, and liberals paint everyone who disagrees with their interventionist positions with the same brush, which helps him do it. I wrote a post dissecting his language here. If you actually look at his record and his actions, he’s happy enough to go along with what the military-industrial complex wants. Here is a video that goes into more details about specifics.

          Dick Cheney is obviously a horrible monster who deserves the worst, and it reflects very poorly on Harris to accept his endorsement, but just because she sucks doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t.

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            19 days ago

            He was firm with Russia and China, but neither of them moved to attack. I don’t care how mad the two are, as long as it keeps war from breaking out.

            I do agree that there’s a bipartisan consensus on military spending, but I think it’s between the Rinos and the DNC. Not that I think Trump will significantly defund our military, but I do think, with those he’s built up around him this time, he’ll be less likely to get into these proxy war situations, end the ones we’re in now, and hopefully we won’t see anymore US-backed coups.

            The issue is, all of that will 100% keep happening under Harris. There’s a reason Dick Chaney didn’t endorse Trump, and it’s because he knows he’s not going to get as much sweet war money from the trump administration being in charge. He knows he’ll get that with Kamala.

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              All of that will 100% keep happening under Trump as well. There is nothing whatsoever that would indicate otherwise. You’re just going off of vibes.

              I don’t care how mad the two are, as long as it keeps war from breaking out.

              That’s self-contradictory. Worsening relations make conflict more likely. Trump is the one that set us on this trajectory in the first place. The idea of China or Russia being our enemies was laughable before him.

              The reality is that neither part of the establishment actually wants war with Russia or China. They’re sitting comfortable at the top and have no reason to throw the world into chaos and jeopardize their comfortable positions. What they want is to rally people up into supporting the possibility of war in order to justify military spending, which they profit from. The risk of war comes from two things: first, someone overplays their hand, and second, that the people who are being rallied up to support war actually find themselves in position to follow through. Part of the reason that some people on the right, such as Tucker Carlson, oppose involvement in the war in Ukraine is because they actually want a full-scale war with China and want to close the other front to make way for it.

              I don’t see how you can look at all the coups and bombings and rising tensions and unconditional support for Israel under Trump before and seriously think that he won’t do more coups and such if elected again. It’s just cope.