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    1 year ago

    I’ve used it for exactly three minutes and this is already amazing. I hope it gets integrated into ReVanced and Newpipe.

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      It’s pretty telling a platform like YouTube really only gets fully enjoyable with an adblocker, sponsorblock and this. I wish PeerTube had a lot of good creators, but last time I checked (years ago, admittedly) it was mostly conspiracy theorists and cryptobros.

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        The problem with PeerTube is that there’s no built-in way for creators to get paid. If there are no ads or sponsors, then the only alternative is some kind of value for value system like what Podcasting 2.0 has. Until some kind of well integrated funding system gets built for PeerTube, creators really are not going to be incentivized to publish stuff on the platform.

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          Best I can think of, would be implementing Librepay into PeerTube and make payments easy af.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    I want to know when YT made it possible to have thumbnails be their own image and not taken from the video itself. I can scrub the video through every single frame and never actually find the thumbnails anymore.

    Hell, sometimes the text in the thumbnail says something that isn’t even discussed in the video at all. Those are the ones I hate the most. And I wouldn’t necessarily want to remove the thumbnail, just because there are plenty of channels that make the thumbnail the actual title and the title is just… Bullshit, non-descriptive, a number, etc. Not all of them are bad. Civvie 11 and Internet Comment Etiquette do this. Erik probably does it on purpose both for the fact it works and also because he is a satire channel that regularly shits on these practices by showing how dumb they are. Civvie also satirizes YT’s bullshit, but that’s not really the prime focus of the channel.

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    Really good extension, I’ve added it to my browser.

    While some creators like Linus have said they dislike the clickbaity titles and thumbnails but they have to do it due to engagement that’s simply because the younger generations are the ones engaging with that content. As an older person I’d rather just have a to the point description of what I’m going to get.

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      There is a reason clickbait images and titles are used, they work. If they didn’t work, no one would use them.

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        You must think marketing is made of infallible geniuses. Just because it exists doesn’t make it good.

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          Nobody said “good”, but if it keeps existing, it works or at least isn’t harmful. Bit like evolution.

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            Or there are people with an interest in keeping it that way.

            I don’t think there’s any big conspiracy about YouTube titles, but let’s not pretend thing like wealth inequality still exist because they’re not harmful.

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              What “interest” would they have to keep it that way if it wasn’t working?

              Wealth inequality exists because it works for the people who have the power to control it. In a way, it’s not harmful ENOUGH to change evolutionarily.

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                Are you serious? You literally answered your own question with the very next sentence.

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                  What? The original argument was “Just because it exists doesn’t make it good.”, implying that it (click-bait thumbnails) doesn’t necessarily work. To which I said that the fact that it exists means it works. To which you seemed to object by saying that there may be people who have an interest in it existing - like they want it to exist despite it actually not working. I’m confused about what it is you’re saying.

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    Love the idea, but just to be the devil’s advocate, I think it will just mask garbage videos. Currently, the clickbait thumbnails and titles are an indicator to blacklist a channel, without having to waste time watching it.

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    This add-on needs to:

    • Store unlimited amount of client-side data
    • Access your data for sites in the googlevideo.com domain
    • Access your data for sites in the youtube.com domain
    • Access your data for sponsor.ajay.app
    • Access your data for dearrow-thumb.ajay.app
    • Access your data for www.youtube-nocookie.com

    This add-on may also ask to: **Access your data for all websites

    Is there a better option than for it to need unlimited amount of client-side data? Also, why “Access your data for all websites”?-

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      Creator of theq extension here, that is an optional permissions (may ask). It never asks to access to all sites, it only optionally let’s you add support for additional sites such as different Invidious instances. These are arbitrary domains, so it needs permission to ask for any arbitrary website.

      Support for invidious is not actually done yet, so right now, it never asks for permission for any new sites anyway

      The client side data is used to store your submissions to always show your preferred title, even if there is another submission on the server. You can disable this option in the settings

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      Store unlimited amount of client-side data

      That’s the Unlimited Storage permission. Without it, they’d be using storage.local with the default limits:

      The browser may restrict the amount of data that an extension can store in the local storage area. For example:

      • In Chrome, an extension is limited to storing 5MB of data using this API unless it has the “unlimitedStorage” permission.
      • In Firefox, the amount of data an extension can store is subjected to the same storage limits as applied to IndexedDB databases. Extensions that intend to store more data than this limit need the “unlimitedStorage” permission. However, extensions with the “unlimitedStorage” permission may get a quota exceeded error when the disk space used by storage exceeds the global limit.

      I assume they’re expecting to exceed the 5 MB because of caching thumbnail data, and possibly multiple thumbnails per video if you’re contributing thumbnail and title data.

      Either way, if you see “unlimited storage” permission as a request for “more than 5 MB”, it doesn’t sound so bad, does it?

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    Does anyone know how to convert this into a Userscript? I use Userscripts (a Tampermonkey reimplementation for Safari) and I did not get it to work.

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    Yooo that’s so cool! I’m already using SponsorBlock for in-video stuff, uBlock Origin for the around the video stuff, and a Thumbnail remover (can’t recall the name rn). But I think this is even better, because just the first or middle frame of a video isn’t exactly capturing the essence of that video.

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      Clickbait remover uses YouTube’s auto generated ones, which while are seemingly random, are not. They use some algorithm to target faces in exaggerated expressions.

      DeArrwow uses actually random ones (and then a user can submit specific timestamps if there is a better one). It’s noticeable better on many channels imo. It also let’s us do things like make sure the random thumbnail is not in a sponsor using SponsorBlock data

      (I made DeArrow)

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    Tbf I can’t think of any instance where Marques has click baited. At most they’re just obnoxious. But it’s been proven to work, as dumb as it is. Also Marques’s thumbnails are nowhere near as cringe as other Youtubers.

    While I wish the days of 2007-2013 YouTube returned to the non clickbait and non garbage thumbnails, those days are over. I’d rather have the obnoxious thumbnails so I know which creators are trash.

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      I don’t know who this person is, but the example in the OP is definitely clickbait. “This phone is nearly perfect” but doesn’t say what the phone is, baiting you to click for the answer instead of just mentioning what phone we’re reviewing.

      No judgement, it’s his business and he’s gotta make money, but saying he doesn’t do this just seems demonstrably wrong.

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        Yeah exactly, these kinds of titles make me not wanna click at all because I got no idea what it’s about (since it’s almost certainly not gonna be the perfect phone), so usually I don’t watch this kind of content at all. DeArrow really helped navigate around this crap and even LTT is kinda interesting to watch again because I finally know if a video is gonna be interesting to me BEFORE clicking it.

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    Thank you for the link. It works great! Now I have the perfect YouTube with Ublock Origin + Sponsor Block + Dearrow + Return Youtube Dislike. It’s crazy how many extensions you need to add to make YouTube bearable… it’s really time for a good competitor to take its place !

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      A different platform would also be plagued by clickbait and sponsor messages.

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    This feels like, IMHO, trying to put out a forest fire with a single bucket of water. Instead, we should have a platform that does not encourage making titles and thumbnails completely unrelated to the video’s content.