• Krono@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    Not everything is about defeating Trump. Some of us have a moral compass.

    For example, I will not ignore, deny, or downplay an ongoing genocide just because it would suit my presidential preference.

    Additionally, now is the best time to attack Biden, because he is a huge underdog after his horrific debate performance. Attacking Biden is pushing the DNC to change candidates before it’s too late. Supporting Biden at this juncture is just helping to elect President Trump.

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      2 days ago

      That’s the most privileged moral compass imaginable.

      Actual people in America have died because of Trump’s policies. Not just due to Covid, but because they were denied abortions, or because the people with guns knew the cops wouldn’t care if a transperson got killed.

      What are you going to say when Trump has the right to deputize a million or so Kyle Rittenhouses?

      That you made the tough call?

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        2 days ago

        You are acting like my joke comment on a Lemmy meme is going to sway the election lol

        Look I get it, you will support Biden until he loses, then you will blame people like me for his loss. It’s a comfy position to hold, you never have to examine your own positions- just blame others.

        We both agree Trump is horrible. You dont have to remind me. My beloved grandmother, the best person in my life, died of covid during the Trump presidency. I will never forgive him, and I certainly will never vote for him.

        But just because I fucking hate Trump doesn’t mean I’m going to deny reality. Actual people die because of Trumps policies, that we agree on. But Gazans are actual people too, and you seem to be denying that.

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          2 days ago

          Your playing the ‘just kidding, bro’ card?

          Get some new material.

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            2 days ago

            Yes it was a joke, but no I wasnt “just kidding”

            Joe Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide.

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      2 days ago

      But you will aid genocide just because it suits your presidential preference. Filthy liberal.

      “I’ll help Trump get elected and bomb the West Bank! That’ll show Biden!”

      You apathetic centrists put your political teams over actual people’s lives. You treat politics like it’s a fucking wrestling match and you buy into the DNC’s kayfabe.

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          2 days ago

          No, I’m responding to the right comment. You’re the liberal who’ll risk a Trump presidency in the name of your hatred of Biden, right? The one who buys into DNC lies that they care more about winning the presidency than they do about having Biden as candidate?

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            So accurate criticism of Biden is now “risking a Trump presidency”? You’re suggesting that I should stop talking about an ongoing genocide?

            And by criticizing Biden’s genocidal actions, this makes me a centrist, a liberal, and even worse, a DNC believer? I am so confused.

            Its fascinating how you bluemaga people can claim to be the defenders of democracy and free speech, yet your words betray the fact that you hate both concepts.

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              Your actions have consequences, liberal. You have the right to free speech even when you use it to subvert democracy, and I have the right to tell you to shut up. I know Daddy Elon says free speech means no consequences for what you say, but he’s a dipshit and so are you. People are allowed to tell you to shut up. Criticise Israel in a manner other than telling people not to vote against fascism. It’s easy, look, I’ll show you:

              Israel is committing a genocide and Biden is ethically obligated to stop supplying the IDF and to commit to military action against the IDF’s bases of operations.

              See? I criticised Israel, I acknowledged genocide, and I laid out concrete action the US can take against Israel. I even criticised Biden! How about that! What I didn’t do, is tell people not to vote against fascism. Now, I know for a liberal like yourself, the idea of opposing fascism is quite repugnant, but that’s because you’re a shithead.

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                2 days ago

                Where do you get the impression that I am “telling people to not to vote against fascism”? How is my criticism of Biden different from yours?

                Bonus points if you can answer this question without using your smarmy, inaccurate insults.